Feb 23

POPE TO COPELAND: CATHOLICS AND CHARISMATICS MUST SPIRITUALLY UNITE

We are galloping toward a one-world melding of religions, and the ramifications are staggering. Pope Francis has now sent a video message to Word of Faith father Kenneth Copeland, urging a reconciliation between Catholics and Charismatics.

“The Catholic and Charismatic Renewal is the hope of the Church,” exclaims Anglican Episcopal Bishop Tony Palmer, before a group of cheering followers at the Kenneth Copeland Ministries.   Palmer said those words are from the Vatican. Before playing the video message from Pope Francis to Kenneth Copeland, Palmer told the crowd,  “When my wife saw that she could be Catholic, and Charismatic, and Evangelical, and Pentecostal, and it was absolutely accepted in the Catholic Church, she said that she would like to reconnect her roots with the Catholic culture. So she did.”

The crowd cheered, as he continued, “Brothers and sisters, Luther’s protest is over. Is yours?”

Even Kenneth Copeland finds this development incredible: Said Copeland, “Heaven is thrilled over this…You know what is so thrilling to me? When we went into the ministry 47 years ago, this was impossible.”

How can this impossibility be? Could the ears of those once aware of the evils of ecumenicism suddenly be sealing shut? What is even more gobsmackingly painful is the reaction from evangelicals, who seem quite thrilled with this unholy alliance.

Here is the longer version of what Copeland and Palmer said. Note that at about 40 minutes in, Copeland and the congregants join in prayer for the “Holy Father,” then watch as Anthony Palmer videotapes a return message to Pope Francis from Kenneth Copeland himself.

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    • Jeff headrick on March 9, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    Jan read Kenneth copelands magazine for 6months and see if your opinion of him doesn’t change everything he talks and writes about is scripualy sound. It’s always about Jesus. Just look at the fruit in the mans life ministry, family operations and his immediate family and grandchildren. Common jan I love listening to u and love your ministry, and I look at the tree where the fruit comes from! Check him out more closely yourself. In Christ

    Jeff Headrick
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    612-518-7987

    • Sandy Moon on March 16, 2014 at 9:25 am

    I don’t think we should condemn Kenneth Copeland and the entirety of his ministry because of this. I hate it when Christians jump to gleefully declare a preacher a false teacher. And if you listen to what Tony and the Pope say, technically they don’t speak any false doctrine. I wasn’t comfortable with Tony declaring that doctrine doesn’t matter, because some doctrine differences do matter a lot. This whole thing is confusing, because the message from Tony and the Pope too did not reflect theological error. However, the global religion thing is clearly an end time event that figures into the New World Order and the worship of the antichrist. Also, I have felt uncomfortable hearing what the pope said about atheists, although that was a bit confusing to me too. Was he saying that atheist go to heaven? And then there is the movement to unite Muslim religion with Christianity, which is ludicrous because of their obvious inherent differences. My thought this morning is that I am uncomfortable with all of this, but I can’t point exactly to why. I want to reiterate that I abhor Christians that jump to label other Christians as evil, almost like a gleeful child pointing their finger at some other child shouting, “He did it!” I find the spirit of that sort of thing to be wrong.

    • admin on March 17, 2014 at 9:44 am
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    Sandy

    Great comment and it is posted. While I agree with you about being too quick to label things as false this pope clearly is not a true believer. He has said that atheists can go to heaven! This clearly says that he does not believe that Jesus is the only way to heaven. He also is now openly considering gay civil unions to be okay! While homosexuality is no different than any other sin it is the sin that is clearly in focus now and is helping to seprate the wheat from the tares! If it does not line up with the Word then it is false. Easy and simple definition to live by! Jesus told Satan that man is to live by every wordthat proceeds from God’s mouth. That is every.

    You are correct in worrying about the one world religion! All this ecumenical stuff is leading in that direction.

    Keep praying and staying in His Word!

    • The Flash on April 5, 2014 at 9:18 am

    This guy, pope francis is evil.

    Kenneth Copeland Ministries is very very evil…always has been, always will be. Everyone speaks in tongues, not that speaking in tongues is a bad thing but when you see it in people who don’t and have never belonged to the Catholic Church or people who left the Catholic Church for this ministry, who has never promoted the teachings of The Catholic Church and most importantly never consider our mother Mary…EVER!…God talks to all of them,all the time. If ya every ask them a question about something…the answer is “The Lord spoke to me and told me”…that’s with all of them.

    They wallow and believe in vanity, they wallow in false healing and false teaching about The Lord, they wallow with evil spirits all polluted with them from head to toe…all ten times worse then the evil prophet. They all come from the same branch as tammy faye and bi sexual husband jim baker…that evil idiot peter popoff and the whole slew of evil preachers and so called christian healers who are on tv daily…moving from one city to the next, from one country to the next seducing the people left right and center and no one says anything, unlike the multitudes who raise their voice against Catholic prophets.

    The Christian Channel promotes them bigtime and now pope francis the stinker does the same…None of this flock receives Holy Communion, none of this flock ever goes to confession…but healings and miracials galore! when these evil people enter the Catholic Church because of the friendship between evil francis the destroyer and this evil ministry, then you’ll see all kinds of false healings from satan.

    The good and holy prophet who comes from Our Lord ” WHO IS CHRISTIAN and OUTSIDE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH” will always include Our Blessed Mother. And they will speak and repeat the many many messages that Our Blessed Mother Mary has given to this world during all these years and decades upon decades that reach far back into the centuries. They will speak of the teachings and her endless wisdom, and tell the people to listen to her. Un like the sick demonic GARBAGE that your sticking up for…The evil Christian prophets who never mention mother Mary, who never mention anything from past saints or saints from any of the denominations who pray the Apostles Creed. Yet, they say they are called from the Lord.

    They don’t teach the people to pray, they teach them NOTHING, a pile of truth mixed in with a pile of lies and trap them in darkness instead. They divided and split thereseleves away from any teachings that come from any Christian denomination who prays the Apostles Creed, like all good Christians should. These evil prophets who say THEY ARE CALLED FROM THE LORD, like kENneTh cOpelAnD who is, btw a very disqusting looking man and the rest of these evil so called chistian healers,has never before repeated the words of Our Blessed Mother or Jesus by telling the people to pray the Holy Rosary…which our Lord wants all prophets and all Christians and all others from different religions, like Muslums to pray.

    The preacher Billy Graham spoke many times about our mother Mary, like a good Christian should and preached in Catholic Churchs too. And recently, well not that recently, about 5 yrs ago or so after the death of pope John Paul II. On one of his last appearances in public, spoke to a great multitude of people and to the people watching on tv. Told the people about Our Blessed Mother Mary and Fatima….He told the people this generation has lost it’s sense of love and to prepare for The Second Coming Of Christ…just as pope John Paul II had stated, this generation has lost it’s sense of sprituality.

    This generation has lost it’s sense of love and it’s sense of sprituality, just like the good preacher and the great pope and our Blessed Mother has stated this would happen, and it all comes from these evil prophets and evil gay priests and evil churchs who protect them….who deny and argue and bitch about every word that comes from the mouth of Our Lady who satan can’t stand and Our Lord who satan can’t stand.

    If ya have to watch any of these evil prophets on tv to decide for yourselves, if your smart enough,ya better have a rosary and ask Our Blessed Mother for protection.

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