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Does the Brewer Cave Story Unlock a Hidden History?

Pseudo archaeology , and some of its more controversial claims, have long been the subject of extensive debate among mainstream scholars and the general public. From ancient aliens , creation myths, and races of giants, these subjects are part of a very obscure niche of historical research. But why is it so? Why are these stories so out of the realm of the possible?

Today we’ll try to answer that question, as we dig into the story of the Brewer Cave – a purported discovery of an ancient giant burial in Ohio, USA. When it first appeared, this sensational story opened up a whole new level of connections with other similar discoveries, furthering the possibility that there actually might be some truth to the hard-to-believe story of ancient giants.

Join us as we descend into the world of old Native legends, covered up archaeology finds, and the most shocking hoax stories of the 20th century. Will we discover the truth? I think it’s certainly somewhere out there.

Discovering the Brewer Cave

The story of the Brewer Cave begins in the 1950’s. The cave, which remains unidentified, is claimed to be located somewhere close to Manti, Utah. It gets its name from one Mr. John Brewer, who discovered this cave sometimes around 1955, when he was only 22 years old.

According to the “legend”, as many now describe it, Mr. Brewer was immediately attracted to the cave as he noticed telltale details of soot on the ceiling, and he knew that something more was to be found within. That was the case – the cavern opened into a rectangular chamber in which Brewer allegedly discovered an ancient burial site , a chamber filled with grave goods and two Caucasoid (white) mummies, which were of such a great size that they were recognized as giants.

The problem with the story of Brewer Cave is the fact that this burial chamber was witnessed only by John Brewer and his son, and seemingly no one else. An avid researcher, Brewer didn’t want to share his discovery with the Smithsonian Institute and other official sources, fearing the magnitude of such a discovery wouldn’t be received as properly as he’d hope.

Still, Brewer left behind him detailed sketches of the burial chamber, drawings of the mummies, and a collection of highly unusual and well preserved items, which even today remain a matter of much heated debate. Numerous stone artifacts, finely carved, were discovered, alongside copper spearheads, arrowheads, jewelry, pottery, and numerous undecipherable writings.

Brewer heard of this cave beforehand, from an elderly man by the name of George Keller. Keller visited the chamber in his youth, when it was shown to him by the local Native, Lone Eagle. It was located in the mountains which the Natives lived in, and was considered a sacred site, called the “Cave of the Great Spirit”.

Keller, many decades after, in the 50’s, shared that story with John Brewer, immediately stirring his interest. Brewer originally intended to search around this location in order to unearth arrowheads, which he collected. But after his initial discoveries, Brewer realized that he was on the verge of discovering something much more than arrowheads.

John Brewer claimed to have discovered this chamber behind the Temple Hill at Manti, Utah, more precisely at a hill behind it. After his initial surveying of the chamber, he made repeated returns to it, making it a sort of “in situ” research place. He kept a detailed journal of his discoveries, logging all items after careful studying.

Now, this journal, much like the whole story, is subject to great doubt, leading to claims that it is not authentic and in fact fabricated. This stems from the claim from Brewer himself, who stated that no one saw his journal = he kept it secret.

Terry Carter, a leading researcher of the Brewer Cave story, from the Ancient Historical Research Foundation, stated that : “..I have come to the confident conclusion that this is indeed John Brewer’s own excerpts, from his own personal journal.”

A Princely Grave – The Artifacts of Brewer Cave Burial Chamber

The burial chamber was accessed through a 30 foot (9 meter) entrance. At its end were five steps that led to the doorway and into the chamber. According to Brewers own detailed sketches of the site, there was a trap at the entrance – a hole of unknown depth that was present after the fifth step of the stairs. The trap was traversed by a hidden side passage that went around it.

Once inside, the relatively small chamber was roughly squared shape with a protruding T-shape area which remained unexplored by Brewer. After initial surveys, Brewer discovered a number of artifacts and elements in the chamber. The basic discoveries were arrowheads and pottery objects.

This was followed by a number of quite odd items – a small “book”, measuring 2.25 x 3.25 x 4 inches (5.7 x 8.3 x 10.2 centimeters), which was a binding of several copper plates that resembled a book. This was bound in copper strips and encased in a mud cover, supposedly to preserve it. After the painstaking removal of mud, Brewer discovered that the copper pages were inscribed with numerous undecipherable writings – strange symbols and “letters” consisting of many little lines.

Copper plates purportedly discovered in the Brewer Cave. (Terry Carter / YouTube)

There were also stamped scorpion symbols and many other details, all of which were stamped. The tools with which these were stamped were also discovered. This was followed by a good deal of other small plates, this time not bound.

Some were copper and some were made of gold. All of them were covered in what looked like texts, although in an unknown writing system.

Another find was a small object that looked like a bell. It was roughly made out of lead and covered with more of the writings. It was followed by a number of lead plates, once more, covered with strange inscriptions and diagrams. Brewer also discovered several large stone tablets, incised with the odd symbols.

One of these he accidentally struck with his pick during his excavations. Photographs of all these items exist – and many were gifted to friends. Most of them seem genuine – i.e. seemingly of an ancient origin, possessing the patina, the wear and tear that is generally ascribed to ancient findings.

The next major discovery in the chamber was a set of stone boxes. These were overlooked at first by Brewer, since they were carefully covered in a layer of mud and thus camouflaged into the walls. When mud was removed, Brewer discovered several stone boxes which were carefully covered in juniper bark and resin – seemingly for preservation.

Beneath the bark were perfectly carved rectangular boxes with lids – inside were housed elongated copper tablets with inscriptions. The outside of the boxes were carved with intricate designs, displaying images that are oddly out of place for the North American continent – or are they?

One box, entirely covered with symbols, writings, and drawings, had a large engraving of a boat – with displayed oars, a swelled sail, and a (dragonhead ?) prow. Another box was adorned with a carving of a chariot with horses and a winged man, among other interesting drawings.

The tree bark in which the boxes were preserved in, was radiocarbon dated – Steven E. Jones, Professor of Physics at Brigham Young University stated: “With a radiocarbon age of 5 BC to 390 BC, the Brewer bark sample is thus scientifically demonstrated to be very old. […] The bark used to cover the stone box in question is indeed ancient.”

But the most controversial discovery lay hidden behind the wall itself. Sometime after the initial discovery of the chamber, John Brewer and his son stumbled upon a pair of sarcophagi – stacked one on top the other. The lower one held the preserved body of a woman, while the top one held the body of a man. Brewer, wishing to preserve them as much as possible and not cause excess disturbing of the remains, made careful examinations and his son drew detailed sketches, since photography was not at their disposal at the time.

The mummies were covered with woven “straw-like” blankets, and three more subsequent cover, all covered with resin which could have led to partial preservation of the bodies. According to the sketches and Brewer’s writings, the mummies were preserved to a good extent, and of very great size.

The male was around 9 feet 2 inches (2.80 meters) tall, and 4 feet (1.21 meters) across the shoulders and had red hair and beard. The female mummy was 8 feet 10 inches (2.46 meters) and had blonde hair. Both were elaborately decorated with golden items – crowns and breastplates and shoulder pads. The female had a much more elaborate crown of great size and golden coverings on her breasts.

Si-Te-Cah – the Conquered Red Haired Giants

The story of the Brewer Cave is not the only of its kind. It connects directly to the numerous other documented excavations of a similar nature, which are oddly always obscure and considered on the fringe of modern archaeology. Most of those professional or amateur archaeologists and researchers often claim that their findings, and other such discoveries through the 20th and 19th centuries, were actively suppressed and kept secret by the Smithsonian Institute and the government. Why? We might never know.

But the stories of copper plates inscribed with strange writings, of advanced objects and out of place carvings, and of giant red haired mummies are numerous across the United States and often partially documented, so much so, that they cross deeply into the realm of authenticity.

In fact, similar writings on copper and gold plates were discovered all across America: Among the Shawnee and Creek Indians of Alabama in 1791, in New York in 1923, All over the Upper Midwest in the 1800’s, among the Ojibway Indians of Lake Superior in 1850, in Illinois in 1843, and the list goes on. Moreover, discoveries of giants – both mummified and skeletons – were reported from as early as 17th century all the way to the modern age – all over the USA.

All were reported 9 feet (2.7 meters) and taller, and most of them bearing Caucasian features and red hair. Discoveries from Kanab, Salt Lake City, the Santa Catalina island, the Belt Mountains in Montana in 1889, West Virginia in 1883, Mississippi 1884, Nevada 1947, etc. – all of these giant mummy discoveries bear striking resemblance to the documented finds in Brewer Cave, since they too were accompanied by varied metal plates bearing inscriptions.

One similar find that made the headlines is of the famous Lovelock Cave in Nevada. This is perhaps one of the single most important archaeological sites in North America, yet its finds are oddly obscure and difficult to trace. There were over 10,000 ancient discoveries under several feet of bat guano (excrement) which were quite old and fit strangely with a particular Native myth.

Among the many interesting discoveries of Lovelock, were also the mummified remains of red haired giants, and remnants of human bones which were cannibalized. This discovery, made in the early 1910’s, fit with uncanny precision with the ancient legend of the Northern Paiute Indians.

The oral history of this tribe, passed down for generations, is centered around the Si-Te-Cah – a race of red haired giants as described by the Paiute myth. The myth speaks of the arrival (by migration) of the Paiute into the Great Basin region. Here they encountered the Si-Te-Cah and were since constantly at war with them.

These giants were cannibalistic and consumed the Paiute. They were also called Numa Ticutta by the Paiutes, which meant “People Eaters”. After a prolonged conflict, a coalition of Paiute bands drove the remaining Si-Te-Cah into the Lovelock Cave , trapping them there. The myth states that brush was burned at the cave’s mouth, thus killing all the giants within.

Since then, the Paiute were named the Say-Do-Carah – “The Conquerors”. When the discovery in the Lovelock Cave was made, it certainly gave a lot of credibility to a seemingly whimsical Native myth. One of the prominent Paiute figures, Sarah Winnemucca, described an ancient family heirloom she owned, of a battle dress that was adorned with red hair – seemingly a memorabilia of the earliest Paiute history.

Hiding the Pieces of the Puzzle

All the findings of giant mummies are often quickly discarded, seemingly “disappearing” under very improbable circumstances, and are immediately discredited as being “fringe” and “fantastical”. But once we delve deeper into the (almost) countless discoveries that were made and documented throughout history, after we connect the dots and build upon the exhaustive research made by past researchers, we can finally start seeing a much larger picture of a history that remains hidden before the eyes of the world.

The remains discovered at Lovelock Cave have disappeared. (The Giants Of The Lovelock Cave / YouTube)

What at first seemed a hoax, quickly gets the distinct features of a genuine archaeological discovery. And Brewer Cave story bears all the signs of being genuine. Why does Smithsonian so actively discredit these findings.

Why are remains – previously on display – being removed from the eyes of society and policies actively changed to cover them up? We might never know the true reason, but once the pieces of the puzzle begin setting into place, we can realize that perhaps the history of North America isn’t what we thought thus far.

Who were the original settlers of this continent? Who were these fair skinned peoples of great stature that left so many traces behind them. Could it be that they were the original mound builder cultures? Who left a vast number of mounds, many of which were razed to the ground –for reasons unknown to us.

Whatever the truth is, it remains hidden in mist. It is up to us to discover it, and piece the puzzle of the ancient history of North America.

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President Trump Watched While ISIS Supreme Leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Died Like A ‘Whimpering Dog’ During US Special Ops Raid At Secret Hideout

The White House confirmed that Trump watched and listened to the operations unfold in the Situation room Saturday night – Sunday morning Syria time – with National Security Advisor Robert O’Brien, Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of Defense Mark Esper and Joint Chiefs of Staff U.S. Army General Mark Milley and Brig. General Marcus Evans.  The president said, while claiming he’s been looking for Baghdadi ever since assuming office, that he’s potentially the only one better at ‘using the internet’ than ISIS forces.  ‘A couple of weeks ago they were able to scope him out,’ Trump said of the U.S. intelligence community.

by Geoffrey Grider October 27, 2019

President Donald Trump announced Sunday morning that ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi ‘died like a dog’ as the result of a U.S. Special Ops forces raid on his hideout in northwest Syria.

That ripping sound you heard earlier today was the sound of Democrats in Washington pulling their own hear out of their own heads as Donald Trump kept yet another campaign promise in spectacular fashion. President Trump watched while US Special Ops forces raided the secret lair of ISIS supreme leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi early Sunday morning. Faced with no way out, al-Baghdadi detonated his own suicide vest rather than face justice in the United States.

This comes as a much-needed shot in the arm for not only the so-called ‘war on terror’, but to buoy the reelection prospects of Donald Trump in 2020. Good job, Mr. President, keep up the good work. I loved how you specifically pointed out that al-Baghdadi “died like a dog”, doesn’t get much better than that. You sent the snowflakes over at fake news CNN into a tailspin (see video below of the Liberals whining about it), and sent your reelection chances soaring into the stratosphere. And the Trump Train just keeps on rolling…rolling right over that phony impeachment kangaroo court, too. #MAGA2020

‘He died like a dog’ Donald Trump addresses the nation and confirms that ‘coward’ ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has been killed by U.S. Special Forces

FROM DAILY MAIL UK: ‘Last night the United State brought the world’s number one terrorist leader to justice. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is dead,’ Trump said from the Diplomatic Reception Room, where just a week earlier he announced a ceasefire between Turkey and the Kurds.

‘He was the founder and leader of ISIS, the most ruthless and violent terror organization anywhere in the world,’ he continued as he described the events of the raid. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the president confirmed, detonated his suicide vest, killing himself and three children, during an overnight targeted attack in Syria’s Idlib province.

The president touted the operation and al-Baghdadi’s death as ‘bigger than bin Laden.’ Osama bin Laden, founder of Al-Qaeda and the terrorist leader behind the September 11 terrorist attacks, was killed in 2011 during a Navy SEALs operation during Barack Obama’s presidency.

‘This is the biggest there is. This is the worst ever. Osama bin Laden was big, but Osama bin Laden became big with the World Trade Center. This is a man who built a whole, as he would like to call it, a country,’ Trump said, referencing al-Baghdadi’s creation of the Islamic State.

Trump also referred to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and those who followed him as ‘losers,’ and lauded that no U.S. personnel were lost during the raid. He did say, however, that one ‘talented canine’ was injured.

‘I got to watch much of it. No personnel were lost in the operation, while a large number of Baghdadi’s fighters and companions were killed with him,’ Trump said during his rare Sunday morning remarks.

‘He died after running into a dead-end tunnel, whimpering and crying and screaming all the way,’ Trump continued, adding that Baghdadi drug three of his children with him. ‘They were led to certain death.’

‘He reached the end of the tunnel as our dogs chased him down. He ignited his vest, killing himself and the three children. His body was mutilated by the blast. the tunnel had caved in on it, in addition. But test results gave certain, immediate and totally positive identification. It was him. The thug who tried so hard to intimidate others spent his last moments in utter fear, in total panic and dread, terrified of the American forces bearing down on him,’ he detailed.

The White House confirmed that Trump watched and listened to the operations unfold in the Situation room Saturday night – Sunday morning Syria time – with National Security Advisor Robert O’Brien, Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of Defense Mark Esper and Joint Chiefs of Staff U.S. Army General Mark Milley and Brig. General Marcus Evans.

The president said, while claiming he’s been looking for Baghdadi ever since assuming office, that he’s potentially the only one better at ‘using the internet’ than ISIS forces.

‘A couple of weeks ago they were able to scope him out,’ Trump said of the U.S. intelligence community. ‘You know, these people are very smart, they are not into the use of cell phones any more. They’re very technically brilliant,’ the president said in reference to those working for ISIS.

‘Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi died like a dog, he died like a coward. He was whimpering, screaming and crying, and frankly I think it’s something that should be brought out so that his followers and all of these young kids that want to leave various countries – including the United States – they should see how he died. He didn’t die a hero, he died a coward – crying, whimpering, and screaming and bringing three kids with him to die. Certain death.’

The president teased Saturday night, ‘Something very big has just happened!’ and the White House also announced that night that the president would be ‘making a major statement’ Sunday morning from the White House.

Trump said he does not regret his decision to withdraw U.S. troops from northern Syria, which opened the way for Turkey to invade and target Kurdish forces.

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Civil Unrest Is Erupting All Over The World, But Just Wait Until The United States Joins The Party…

October 20, 2019 by Michael Snyder

All over the globe, the mood is turning sour.  Anger and frustration are bubbling over, and protests are becoming violent in major cities all across the planet.  In some cases economic pain is driving the protests and in other cases political matters are motivating the protesters, and it has been a very long time since we have seen so many angry protests happening all over the world simultaneously.  Unfortunately, many believe that what we have seen so far is just the beginning.  Global economic conditions are rapidly deteriorating, and as economic pain intensifies that is only going to make everyone more frustrated.  And here in the United States, the drama surrounding the potential impeachment of Donald Trump is going to greatly escalate the political tensions that are already deeply dividing this country.  No matter how things turn out, a large percentage of the population is likely to be deeply frustrated with the result, and that could very easily lead to tremendous civil unrest.

But before we get to Trump, let’s take a look at what has been going on around the rest of the world first.  In Chile, we are witnessing violent protests unlike anything that we have seen in decades

Three people died in a fire in a supermarket being ransacked in the Chilean capital early Sunday, as protests sparked by anger over social and economic conditions rocked one of Latin America’s most stable countries.

Santiago’s Mayor Karla Rubilar told reporters two people burned to death in the blaze and another later died in hospital, after the huge store controlled by US retail chain Walmart was looted.

Economic conditions are tough in Chile and rapidly getting tougher, and it is very unusual to hear of “looting” in a country that is normally so stable.

Meanwhile, political corruption appears to be the main motivation for the violent protests in Lebanon

Thousands of demonstrators poured into downtown Beirut for a third day on Saturday, hours after overnight clashes erupted between security forces and protesters leading to large-scale arrests and several injuries.

Demonstrations have engulfed various parts of Lebanon for three days. Many protesters called for the resignation of the government and demanded the “downfall” of a political class that has ruled the country since the start of its 15-year civil war in 1975.

When people lose hope that things are ever going to get any better, they tend to take to the streets.

Unfortunately, corruption appears to be a way of life over in Lebanon at this point, and there seems to be little hope of major reforms any time soon.

In the UK, the drama surrounding the Brexit saga drew “hundreds of thousands of people” into the streets of London this weekend…

Hundreds of thousands of people have marched in central London to demand a new referendum on whether Britain should remain in the European Union, as parliament voted to delay a decision on whether to back Prime Minister Boris Johnson‘s revised Brexit withdrawal deal.

The march organised by the People’s Vote campaign is thought to be the largest yet, drawing anti-Brexit supporters from across the country as parliament sat on a Saturday for the first time since the Falklands conflict in the 1980s.

Yet another Brexit agreement appears to have failed, and many are wondering if it will ever be possible to get one through Parliament.

Many of those favoring Brexit are hoping for a “no deal” exit from the European Union at this point, and meanwhile many of the “remainers” are holding out hope that there will somehow be a second referendum.

Over in Spain, violent protests have erupted night after night in the aftermath of the arrest of nine key pro-independence leaders in Catalonia…

Barcelona saw its fifth consecutive night of violence on Friday, in the wake of Monday’s Supreme Court ruling that jailed nine pro-independence leaders for their role in the 2017 secessionist drive. The disturbances last night were particularly virulent, in terms of their duration, intensity and use of violence on the part of protestors, who were very aggressive toward the police.

Violent groups surrounded the central headquarters of the National Police in the Catalan capital, throwing objects, putting up barricades and setting fire to trash containers. As the sun set, the protests moved to the center of the city, where the regional police force, the Mossos d’Esquadra, used an armored vehicle with a water cannon. At least three police officers were injured in the rioting.

These protests may fade after a while, but they are not going away.  Those involved in the pro-independence movement in Catalonia are very passionate, and it has widespread public support.

Of course the protests that have made the biggest splash on the global stage have been the relentless pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong.  Despite the brutality of the police, the protesters just keep coming back again and again, and “tens of thousands” of protesters were in the streets once again on Sunday

Tens of thousands of pro-democracy protesters took to Hong Kong’s streets on Sunday, once again defying a police ban on the assembly and undeterred by a brutal attack against a leader of the organization that called for the march.

The huge turnout, which included families, children and the elderly, demonstrated how the movement now in its fifth month continues to have widespread support, despite the increasingly violent tactics used by protesters and escalating use of force by police.

Here in the United States, we don’t have protests like this going on right now.

But we could very soon.

The impeachment process is bringing a focal point to the deep anger that has been building on both sides of the political spectrum for many years.  Now that this process has begun, there is no going back, and both sides believe that there is only one result that will bring justice.

For the left, any result that does remove Donald Trump from office will be a bitter disappointment.  The Democrats in the House of Representatives are going to draft articles of impeachment, and they believe that they already have the votes they need to send those articles of impeachment to the U.S. Senate.

If the Republican-controlled Senate does not vote to convict Trump and remove him from office, this will greatly upset the left, and could result in an explosion of anger in our city streets.

On the other hand, if the Republican-controlled Senate does vote to convict Trump and remove him from office, tens of millions of hardcore Trump supporters are going to be absolutely livid.  There would be an explosion of righteous anger on the right, and it would almost certainly spill into our city streets.

Of course it is likely that both sides will start protesting well before there is a final result, but once the final vote in the Senate happens that is when things are likely to get very interesting.

The Democrats should have never gone down this road, because one way or another this process is going to tear us apart.

If our founders could see us today they would be rolling over in their graves, because this is not what they intended.

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Turkey Breaks Fragile Ceasefire Agreement With United States In New Attacks On Kurds In Northern Syria As Putin Steps Up Control Of Region

“Putin is the New King of Syria,” ran the op-ed headline in Thursday’s Wall Street Journal. If Putin is king of Syria, it is because he was willing to pay the price in blood and treasure to keep his Russia’s toehold on the Med and save his ally Bashar Assad, who would have gone under without him. Now let’s see how Putin likes his prize.

by Geoffrey Grider October 19, 2019

Syrian forces, most probably supported by Turkey, were seen attacking several key locations still held by Kurdish forces, violating the US-led ceasefire agreement in the region.

Once again, a military move by President Trump that was panned initially in carefully engineered outrage is turning out to be not so bad after all. Yes, Trump has ordered US troops out of Syria, fulfilling yet another one of his 2016 campaign promises, and Russian leader Vladimir Putin has stepped in to take control. But what exactly is he taking control of, and what order can a weakened Russia possibly make out of all this chaos?

“Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel: And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand.” Ezekiel 39:1-3 (KJV)

Russia has a marginal economy at best, and a military that despite their endless bluster, is actually subpar when compared to most other nations and a joke when compared to the might of the United States. A long sustained control of the quagmire in Syria will not increase Russia’s power but will actually weaken it. Russia does not have the money to do much of anything in Syria and Putin knows it. Besides, all this posturing is merely a dress rehearsal for the ‘real thing’ which comes during the last half of the time of Jacob’s trouble.

Turkey Breaks Ceasefire Agreement With US, Attacks Northern Syria As Putin ‘takes over’

FROM THE JPOST: These forces crossed the border from Turkey into northern Syria, according to the report, and are moving towards Ras al-Ain, a village in which the fighting hasn’t ceased since Friday, even after the ceasefire was signed.

Reuters, however, reports that the “fragile” ceasefire is holding along the Syrian border, though Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan is ready to continue the Syria offensive if the truce deal that was agreed upon is not implemented.

“We paused the operation for five days,” said Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar. “In this time, the terrorists will withdraw from the safe zone, their weapons will be collected and position destroyed. If this doesn’t happen, we will continue the operation.”

Erdogan also threatened the Kurdish forces in northern Syria, saying that they will “crush the heads” of the fighters if they do not withdraw in the 120-hour period designated by the ceasefire. He also said that he would speak about the deployment of Syrian government forces in a planned “safe zone” in northern Syria while speaking with Russian President Vladimir Putin next week

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U.S. Marines reserve units activated for “emergency within the United States” which “will come with little warning” – cites “threats in the Homeland”

Sunday, October 06, 2019 by: Mike Adams
Tags: civil war, coup, deep state, emergency, military, national security, Pentagon, preparedness, President Trump, traitors, treason, U.S. Marines, White House

 (Natural News) BREAKING NEWS UPDATE concerning a directive involving the United States Marine Corps reserve units via MARADMINS number 550/19, signed on Oct. 3, 2019, authorized by Brigadier General Daniel L. Shipley, Director, Manpower Plans and Policy.

Notably, Brigadier General Daniel L. Shipley was nominated by President Trump for the rank of major general, according to a Jan. 16, 2019 Defense.gov press announcement. Before serving in his current role, Shipley served as the deputy director, Program Analysis and Evaluation, Department of Programs and Resources for the U.S. Marines.

This new order is summarized as, “MARINES ORDERED TO ACTIVE DUTY ISO DEFENSE SUPPORT OF CIVIL AUTHORITIES.” (The term “ISO” means In Support Of.”) (See full text of the order here.)

Note: There is disinfo being circulated about this order, claiming it was cancelled, but the cancelled order is 300/14, not 500/19. In fact, this new order 500/19 replaces a lot of previous orders, reestablishing the urgency of the situation and making sure any action to defend the Homeland is authorized by orders that are in good standing.

Many observers are concerned that with Democrats like Rep. Tlaib openly talking about which prisons to use for imprisoning President Trump and his cabinet, and with Hillary Clinton positioning herself to run for president, and with the IG’s FISA abuses report set to drop in a few weeks, the deep state Democrats have reached a point of desperation where they may attempt to initiate a “hot coup” (kinetic engagement, arrest or execution of the President and his Cabinet) to avoid going to prison themselves.

The entire CIA-run deep state media (i.e. Washington Post, NYY, CNN, etc.) are all in on the effort and now gaslighting the entire nation with ginned up “whistleblower” schemes that are wholesale fabrications.

I spoke on the phone with Alex Jones today about this breaking news, and he told me, “I talked to a high level Trump confidant concerning what Trump would do if the deep state attempted an illegal coup. Trump said they would call out the marines and surround the White House, then legally and lawfully pursue the originators of the criminal coup.”

This high-level confidant is someone who is very close to the President, and who is familiar with the President’s plans for how to deal with any attempt by the deep state to carry out an illegal coup attempt.

We urge all lawful, pro-America organizations and individuals to prepare to defend your President against an illegal coup attempt in the coming weeks or months.

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India vs Pakistan: Trump urged to stop nuclear disaster – ‘We’re eyeball to eyeball’

US PRESIDENT Donald Trump has been urged by Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Quereshi to step in to defuse escalating tensions between his country and India over the disputed region of Kashmir with the two nuclear powers currently “eyeball to eyeball”.

By Ciaran McGrath

PUBLISHED: 08:48, Sat, Sep 28, 2019 | UPDATED: 14:56, Sat, Sep 28, 2019

And, responding to Mr Trump’s remark that he hoped the two countries could “come together” to work out a solution, Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan likewise urged the President himself to get involved directly instead. Questioned about the possibility of India and Pakistan finding a way of settling their differences among themselves, Mr Quereshi told Newsweek: “I think we’ve come to the conclusion after one year of continuously trying that it is pointless. “After these actions I do not see any bilateral movement, the only way this issue can be resolved is through third-party facilitation.

“President Trump can play a role, he has a lot of influence over them and the Security Council, which is responsible for peace and security, can play a role.”

“What India has done by this unilateral, illegal action of their’s is they have threatened the peace and security of the region.

“After these actions I do not see any bilateral movement, the only way this issue can be resolved is through third-party facilitation.

“President Trump can play a role, he has a lot of influence over them and the Security Council, which is responsible for peace and security, can play a role.”

Two nuclear-armed states face-to-face, eyeball-to-eyeball that’s a very dangerous situation

Shah Mahmood Quereshi

“What India has done by this unilateral, illegal action of their’s is they have threatened the peace and security of the region.

“Two nuclear-armed states face-to-face, eyeball-to-eyeball that’s a very dangerous situation.”

Relations between the two neighbours and traditional rivals have been deteriorating steadily this year, ever since a terror attack by militants in the disputed Kashmir region left 44 Indian paramilitary police dead.

In response, India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi order an air strike on a camp run by militant organisation Jaish-e-Mohammed which New Dehli claimed killed 300 people, although Islamabad denied this.

Days later Pakistan shot down shot down two Indian jets, parading captured pilot Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman on television before handing him back to the Indian authorities “as a goodwill gesture”.

More recently, Mr Modi upped the stakes by revoking Article 370,  the section of the Indian constitution which guarantees special status to Kashmir and neighbouring Jammu, with Pakistan’s Prime Minister Imran Khan calling it a “historic blunder”.

Speaking on Monday, Mr Trump said he hoped India and Pakistan could come together to resolve their differences over Kashmir.

However, Mr Khan said he would like the United States to use its influence to help.

Mr Trump and Mr Khan met on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly. Mr Trump met Mr Modi later in the week.

The president reiterated to Mr Khan as they began their meeting with reporters present that he would be willing to mediate between India and Pakistan over Kashmir.

Muslim-majority Kashmir has long been a flashpoint between nuclear-armed India and Pakistan.

Both countries rule parts of Kashmir while claiming it in full. Two of the three wars they have fought have been over it.

Both India and Pakistan have nuclear weapons (Image: Daily Express)

Speaking in March after the shooting down of the two jets, Joshua Pollack, the editor of the Nonproliferation Review and a senior research associate with the Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey, told Express.co.uk: “There has been an entire series of these crises going back to about 2001.

“Usually, the White House, State Department, and Pentagon scramble to urge restraint on the parties.

Not this time, as far as anyone can tell; they had to figure out how to extricate themselves from this mess.

“That may bode poorly for the future, at least if the US doesn’t make a concerted effort to rebuild its diplomatic position.

“But even before the gutting of American diplomacy under Trump, the US relationship with Pakistan in particular entered one of its periodic declines. That’s a serious complication.

“Over the long terms, it’s not clear that there will be any external checks on the escalation of a crisis. Restraint must come from within.”

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Signs Of The Times? Earthquake Swarms Hit Texas, Oklahoma, San Francisco And The New Madrid Fault Zone

October 1, 2019 by Michael Snyder There is a whole lotta shaking going on in America right now, and many people are concerned about what that could potentially mean.  Could it be possible that the U.S. is entering a more seismically active time?  This week alone, we have seen earthquake swarms in Texas, Oklahoma, San Francisco and the New Madrid fault zone.  Of course earthquakes happen every day, but to see so many earthquake swarms happen in such diverse places within such a compressed period of time is definitely unusual.  And what makes this even more unusual is the fact that Rosh Hashanah just ended.  In fact, the earthquake swarm that we just witnessed in Texas started on Rosh Hashanah with a magnitude 4.0 quake near the town of “Snyder”

In just over 12 hours, Texas experienced not one earthquake, but four, experts say.

Three quakes were centered near the town of Snyder — just south of the Texas panhandle — with a fourth centered near the Fort Worth area, according to the United States Geological Survey. The first and strongest of the cluster hit just after 4:45 p.m. Monday about 12 miles north of Snyder and measured magnitude 4.0.

That was the strongest earthquake in Texas so far this year, and it was followed by a magnitude 3.8 earthquake near Snyder, a magnitude 3.2 earthquake just south of Fort Worth, and a magnitude 2.5 earthquake near Snyder.

Meanwhile, we have been witnessing unusual earthquake activity in Oklahoma as well.

Over the past 24 hours, the state has experienced 9 earthquakes of at least magnitude 1.5, and over the past 7 days there have been 40 such earthquakes.

Decades ago, Oklahoma was very quiet geologically, but things sure have changed over the past few years.  If you can believe it, there have already been more than 1,000 earthquakes of at least magnitude 1.5 in Oklahoma so far in 2019.

Meanwhile, we continue to see unusual seismic activity along the California coast.  This week, a swarm of five moderate earthquakes in the San Francisco area made headlines all over the nation

A swarm of tiny temblors shook up California’s East Bay over the past 24 hours, the U.S. Geological Survey reports.

The agency reported at least five quakes registering from 2.0 to 2.9 magnitude, along with a slew of even smaller temblors registering below 2.0 magnitude.

The swarm centered on Dublin and San Ramon on the east side of San Francisco Bay.

Those earthquakes didn’t really cause any significant damage, but the concern is that all of this shaking could be leading up to something.  I wrote about this potential danger a few days ago, and scientists assure us that “the Big One” is way overdue and that at some point our time will run out.

Last but certainly not least, an earthquake swarm just hit the New Madrid fault zone as well.

In less than an hour on Monday morning, southeastern Missouri was hit by five significant earthquakes

It started with a 2.6 magnitude temblor around 11:18 a.m. near Lilbourn, a small city just north of Missouri’s boot heel, according to the United States Geological Survey. A mere three minutes later, a 1.1 magnitude quake rumbled nearby.

Just before 11:30 a.m., a 2.7 magnitude quake rattled southwest of Lilbourn followed by a 1.8 magnitude quake only five minutes later, the USGS says.

It would be 23 minutes before the next quake, another magnitude 2.7, shook an area just west of Lilbourn, the USGS says.

For those that don’t know, southeastern Missouri sits right along the New Madrid fault zone, and in the early portion of the 19th century this part of the country was shaken by four of the largest earthquakes in U.S. history

The New Madrid Seismic Zone is the most active earthquake zone east of the Rocky Mountains and spans southeastern Missouri, northeastern Arkansas, western Tennessee, western Kentucky, and southern Illinois.

Between 1811 and 1812, the New Madrid Fault experienced some of the largest quakes in history. And although they originated in the Mississippi Valley, they rang church bells in Boston and shook New York City — over 1,000 miles away.

Even then-President James Madison and his wife Dolley reportedly felt shaking at the White House.

Scientists tell us that it is just a matter of time before earthquakes of that magnitude happen again, and this is something that I have been persistently warning about.

A number of years ago, the U.S. government conducted a major five day operation known as “National Level Exercise 11” in which they attempted to simulate what a major earthquake along the New Madrid fault zone would look like…

In May, the federal government simulated an earthquake so massive, it killed 100,000 Midwesterners instantly, and forced more than 7 million people out of their homes. At the time, National Level Exercise 11 went largely unnoticed; the scenario seemed too far-fetched — states like Illinois and Missouri are in the middle of a tectonic plate, not at the edge of one. A major quake happens there once every several generations.

Could you imagine what such a disaster would mean for our country?

Plus, it is important to note that there are 15 nuclear reactors operating within the New Madrid fault zone, and so in such a scenario we could potentially be facing the equivalent of 15 Fukushima nuclear disasters.

As long as the earthquakes rattling our nation remain small, they won’t be a problem.

But really big earthquakes are often preceded by smaller “foreshocks”, and scientists tell us that it is just a matter of time until the next great quake hits America.

So let us hope that all of this shaking settles down, because we want that day to be put off for as long as possible.

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MBS Warns War with Iran Could Collapse Global Economy

And yet, the Pentagon still has plans to wipe the Islamic Republic off the map.

Sep 30

Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is warning that a war with Iran would have disastrous consequences for the entire world.

In his long-awaited interview with “60 Minutes,” the de facto Saudi ruler insists the rest of the world must “take a strong and firm action to deter Iran, but conceded:

“The region represents about 30 percent of the world’s energy supplies, about 20 percent of global trade passages, about 4 percent of the world GDP. Imagine all of these three things stop. This means a total collapse of the global economy, and not just Saudi Arabia or the Middle East countries … Oil supplies will be disrupted and oil prices will jump to unimaginably high numbers that we haven’t seen in our lifetimes.”

MbS told “60 Minutes” correspondent Norah O’Donnell that the “political and peaceful solution” would be much preferable to a military solution. He agreed that President Donald Trump should sit down with his Iranian counterpart—but he noted that it is the Iranians who don’t want to talk at this point.

The quest for a political and diplomatic solution to the Iran crisis seems to have rankled Israel. Following Sunday’s CBS broadcast, DEBKAfile ran a report with the headline “Crack in the anti-Iran front: U.S. persuades Saudis to engage Tehran in regional deals.”

The report notes that Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said he has received “messages from Saudi Arabia.” His spokesman refused to divulge the content of those messages, or how they were delivered, but he also added:

“If Saudi Arabia is really pursuing a change of behavior, Iran welcomes that.”

The report also notes that Saudi Arabia was persuaded by both President Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to not respond militarily to the Saudi Aramco attack that has been blamed on Tehran. Riyadh also joined the diplomatic effort to urge Rouhani to meet with the president on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly last week.

It also states:

“Our sources add exclusively that even though the Trump-Rouhani summit at UN Center appeared last week to have fallen through, contacts continue and the two sides appear to be looking for a venue acceptable to both. The main obstacle for now is that the US president has no wish to travel outside America, while Rouhani is reluctant to pay another visit to the US after the US Assembly session. With the summit location still up in the air, the Saudi crown prince’s role is still undecided. However, the comment coming on Tuesday from the Iranian president’s office sounded like a strong signal of positive acceptance of the Saudi feelers for negotiations to center on the topics at issue: the Yemen war and the situation in Syria and Iraq.

“These initial Saudi overtures towards Iran under US auspices are ominous tidings for Israel and its diplomatic, military and intelligence strategy with regard to Iran. The anti-Iran axis set up between Washington, Riyadh and Abu Dhabi is now on the line. Its collapse would leave Israel high and dry on its own against the mortal threat posed by Iran. Tehran, despite Israel’s long efforts, is cementing its military grip on Syria and Iraq. Dramatizing the abiding threat to Israel on Tuesday, Sept. 30, Iran’s Al Qods chief Gen. Qassem Soleimani informed his senior commanders: ‘The Islamic Republic has prepared the capability to annihilate Israel and this regime must be wiped off the world’s geographic history.’”

A top commander of Iran’s elite Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps has made the most overt threat yet. Deputy Commander for Operations Abbas Nilforoushan told Radio Farda:

“If Israel makes a strategic mistake, it has to collect bits and pieces of Tel Aviv from the lower depths of the Mediterranean Sea … Nothing will be left of Israel.

“We will perceive any mistake in the region as involvement in a war in the whole region. Any action to start a war in the region will flare up a fire that will burn those who have started the war.

“Israel is not in a position to threaten his country, because it has been encircled on all four sides …

“We will not let the enemies to face us at our borders. We will quickly drag the war to the bases and interests of the enemies anywhere they may happen to be.”

Meanwhile, leaked documents appear to detail a how a war on Iran has been on the Pentagon’s drawing board for more than ten years. Dr. Dan Plesch and Martin Butcher, who examined the blueprint on how the US attack would unfold, concluded the U.S. has made military preparations to destroy Iran’s weapons of mass destruction, nuclear energy, regime, armed forces, state apparatus, and economic infrastructure within days—if not hours.

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Los Angeles Leaders Want Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom To Declare A State Of Emergency As Homeless Camps Threaten To Overtake The Golden State

Facing a deepening quagmire over homeless encampments, Los Angeles elected officials are increasingly looking to sweeping statewide initiatives to shake loose solutions. The latest proposal from Los Angeles County Supervisor Mark Ridley-Thomas and City Councilman Joe Buscaino would have the governor declare a state of emergency on homelessness in California. Gov. Gavin Newsom has not taken a stand on the current request for a state of emergency declaration.

by Geoffrey Grider September 30, 2019

 “We have a tacit public policy it’s OK to live outdoors,” Steinberg said. “I am strongly pushing for a clear public policy that says as a matter of right people should be living under a roof.”

What happens when you have a state that wants to live without rules and laws, and declare everything to be a ‘right’? You have lawlessness, chaos, and a broken system that creates of dependent entitlement class of sick people instead of instead of a healthy working class of healthy people. This is the real price to pay for having a ‘sanctuary city’ in California, New York City and in other places around the country.

The 2020 Democrats say that health care is a ‘human right’, and that all Americans are entitled to it. They also say that all illegal immigrants are entitled to it as well. Democrats also say that college should be free for anyone who want s to go. Who pays for all these things?  Taxpayers, that’s who. But when you are funding the ‘rights’ of people who are not contributing to the funding, you very quickly run out of money and solutions as more and more people stop working and opt for all the ‘free stuff’ you told them they are entitled to.

Take a long, hard look at California right now, look at the teeming homeless camps that line block after block of Los Angeles, and then watch as those camps spread all the way 7-hours up towards San Francisco. This is what Democratic leadership is offering you in 2020, this is what you will get on a national level if you elect them.

There are so many homeless camps, LA area leaders want Newsom to issue a state of emergency

FROM HERALD MEDIA: Facing a deepening quagmire over homeless encampments, Los Angeles elected officials are increasingly looking to sweeping statewide initiatives to shake loose solutions. The latest proposal from Los Angeles County Supervisor Mark Ridley-Thomas and City Councilman Joe Buscaino would have the governor declare a state of emergency on homelessness in California.

Supporters view such a declaration as a novel strategy to free up state and federal funding typically reserved for natural disasters, such as earthquakes or wildfires, and to suspend or streamline the regulatory hurdles that often slow down shelter and housing development.

It also could block NIMBY opponents from using environmental reviews to sue and delay or block homeless facilities from opening. But some question whether an emergency declaration would be merely symbolic, given President Donald Trump’s rejections of more federal funding and Gov. Gavin Newsom’s commitment of $1 billion for local homeless programs and support for more regulatory relief.

Last week, Newsom signed a package of legislation that, among other things, exempts from environmental review supportive housing and shelter projects in the city of L.A. that receive funding from certain public sources, including the $1.2 billion Proposition HHH housing bond that voters approved in 2016.

Another new law allows cities in Alameda and Orange counties, in addition to the city of San Jose, to declare a shelter crisis so those local governments can eventually bypass some planning and zoning regulations to expedite construction.

“The governor should not sign a declaration of emergency until the proponents identify the specific laws and regulations they want to get around, and the resources they believe the declaration would free up,” said Gary Blasi, a retired law professor who specializes in homelessness issues. “The state statutes regarding emergencies were not designed to respond to long-standing political, leadership and moral disasters.”

Newsom has not taken a stand on the current request for a state of emergency declaration. Alex Comisar, spokesman for Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, said it was “a choice for the governor to make.”

“There are more questions that need to be worked through before he could support something like that,” Newsom spokesman Nathan Click said. In 2015, City Council members and Garcetti announced that they would declare an emergency locally, but then dropped the idea as the mayor sought a statewide declaration from then-Gov. Jerry Brown, who turned him down.

Then in 2018, Los Angeles declared a shelter crisis, which, along with a legislative change, triggered streamlining of red tape around developing emergency beds on public land. Many in L.A. have been frustrated by the sluggish pace of construction of new shelters and housing for the estimated 44,000 residents in the county, including 27,000 in the city, who live outdoors in tents, cars or lean-tos, as opposed to shelters or other temporary housing.

Only 477 emergency shelter beds have been added in the last 2 1/2 years for households without children, which form the bulk of the homeless population, according to an inventory released in September. Buscaino said he has grown particularly frustrated that even temporary tent shelters on public land have become bogged down in approval processes.

“We’re stopping for every red light, instead of treating this like an emergency,” Buscaino said. Before a meeting Friday of the governor’s task force on homelessness, headed by Ridley-Thomas and Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg, Newsom, in a letter, asked members to prioritize getting people off the streets.

He underscored that local communities must “fully enforce” public safety and health laws, touching on the controversial issue of sanitation sweeps of encampments and other police enforcement. He also asked the task force for proposals to break down barriers to building housing and to get more homeless people into treatment.

Steinberg and Ridley-Thomas are championing a legal right to shelter for California, which would require local governments to provide a bed to every homeless person who wants to move indoors. Steinberg also wants to require homeless people to accept shelter if offered, although how that would be enforced is a question mark.

Separately, local governments — including the city and county of L.A. — and business groups also are petitioning the U.S. Supreme Court to hear a challenge to a federal appeals court ruling out of Boise, Idaho, that has stopped authorities in Western states from arresting homeless people for sleeping in public when shelter space is unavailable.

“We have a tacit public policy it’s OK to live outdoors,” Steinberg said. “I am strongly pushing for a clear public policy that says as a matter of right people should be living under a roof.” Newsom has said he is not ready to endorse a legal right to shelter. “What the governor has said is it’s urgent, let’s get started,” Ridley-Thomas said. “I don’t think anything is dead.”

Before the meeting in Los Angeles County’s Willowbrook section on Friday, Ridley-Thomas and Steinberg insisted they were not backing off. But Steinberg repeatedly emphasized that he preferred that people be placed in permanent housing, not a vast shelter system, which critics say could blow the state’s budget without ending homelessness.

“The hard reality is that the governor has already done most of what would be done if a state of emergency was to be called,” said Philip Mangano, the former federal homelessness czar in the George W. Bush and Obama administrations and a member of the governor’s task force. “The governor is the homelessness czar in California, and the task force’s job is to give him big ideas to make a difference.”

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Pope Francis Endorses Essay Trashing U.S. Conservative Christians

Thomas D. Williams, Ph.D.

27 Sep 20197,175

ROME — Pope Francis has publicly endorsed an essay that appeared in 2017 criticizing relations between Evangelicals and Catholics in the United States as an “ecumenism of hate.”

On Thursday, La Civiltà Cattolica journal released the transcript of a meeting between Pope Francis and a group of 24 Jesuits on September 5, 2019, during his recent trip to Mozambique in which the pope suggested that certain Evangelical Protestants in the United States “cannot really be defined as Christian.”

“Two important articles in Civiltà Cattolica have been published in this regard. I recommend them to you. They were written by Father Spadaro and the Argentinean Presbyterian pastor, Marcelo Figueroa. The first article spoke of the ‘ecumenism of hatred.’ The second was on the ‘theology of prosperity,’” the pontiff said.

“Reading them you will see that there are sects that cannot really be defined as Christian. They preach Christ, yes, but their message is not Christian,” the pope said. “It has nothing to do with the preaching of a Lutheran or any other serious evangelical Christianity.”

In the first essay recommended by the pope, the authors, who are both friends of Francis, slammed conservative Christians in the U.S. as ignorant, theocratic, Manichean, war-mongering fanatics.

For the “Evangelical right,” the authors proposed, the panorama of threats to the American way of life “have included modernist spirits, the black civil rights movement, the hippy movement, communism, feminist movements and so on. And now in our day there are the migrants and the Muslims.”

The authors did not hesitate to suggest that many Evangelicals are southern racists who reject climate change.

“Another interesting aspect is the relationship with creation of these religious groups that are composed mainly of whites from the deep American South,” the article stated. “There is a sort of ‘anesthetic’ with regard to ecological disasters and problems generated by climate change. They profess ‘dominionism’ and consider ecologists as people who are against the Christian faith.”

Throughout the essay, the authors criticize a string of exclusively Republican presidents as being tainted by the teachings of Evangelical Protestantism. The list of those mentioned includes Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush, and, of course, Donald Trump.

One of the most serious evils of American Evangelical Christians, the article stated, is “the defense of religious liberty,’” which takes the form of “a direct virtual challenge to the secularity of the state.”

The authors went on to denounce the ecumenical alliance between conservative Catholics and Evangelical Christians who align behind certain moral issues in the public square.

“Some who profess themselves to be Catholic express themselves in ways that until recently were unknown in their tradition and using tones much closer to Evangelicals. They are defined as value voters as far as attracting electoral mass support is concerned,” the article asserted.

This poisonous alliance over shared objectives “happens around such themes as abortion, same-sex marriage, religious education in schools and other matters generally considered moral or tied to values,” the essay claimed, which unite Catholics and Evangelicals in “the nostalgic dream of a theocratic type of state.”

At the time of its publication, the article triggered an avalanche of critical responses denouncing the ignorance and political ill-will underlying the essay.

Philadelphia Archbishop Charles J. Chaput, for instance, wrote a sharp criticism of the essay, saying that the authors were guilty of “dumbing down and inadequately presenting the nature of Catholic/evangelical cooperation on religious freedom and other key issues.”

“Dismissing today’s attacks on religious liberty as a ‘narrative of fear,’” as the La Civiltà Cattolica article does, Chaput said, “sounds willfully ignorant.”

In his critique of the article, Dr. Samuel Gregg called the article “disturbing,” while lamenting the tacit anti-Americanism and “distinctly amateur grasp of American religious history.”

As Dr. Gregg noted, to describe “Marxism-Leninism, Islamist jihadism, or National Socialism” as evil is not evidence of a Manichaean worldview. “It is simply recognition that some ideas are indeed wicked and lead to many people, even nations, engaging in gravely evil acts.”

Moreover, Gregg wrote, if one looks at statements put together by various scholars and intellectuals involved in movements such as Evangelicals and Catholics Together, “they contain not a shred of theocratic aspiration.”

“The ecumenical discussion between those involved in these endeavors have led over time to genuine fruit in terms of clarification of points in common, removing misconceptions, identifying real doctrinal road-blocks, and identifying areas where practical work to promote the common good can be pursued together,” Gregg observed.

It is not a theocratic nostalgia that leads Evangelical and Catholic Christians in America to make the argument that “unborn human beings are entitled to the same protections from the unjust use of lethal force as any other human being, or that religious liberty is more than just freedom of worship, or that parents are entitled to insist that their children not be subjected to the nonsense of ‘gender theory’ at school,” Gregg added.

The published criticisms of the original article by serious scholars, both Christian and secular, ended up being so numerous they could fill a book. The article was eventually dismissed as simply an embarrassing attempt at political propaganda by overly zealous Italian and Argentinian clerics who were completely out of their depth.

Which could lead one to wonder what Pope Francis could possibly be thinking when he dredges up this ill-begotten essay out of the swamp of oblivion to recommend it as a useful aid for understanding America’s complex religious landscape.

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