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May 19

Read this! Shades of Gray

Article by Donna Wasson. Enjoy!

By Donna Wasson


 

I’ve noticed the closer I get to God, the darker this world looks to me. The whole landscape seems to have a gray cast to it; shadows are deeper and even in bright sunshine, the colors of trees and flowers are less vivid. There’s nothing wrong with my eyesight, other than the infernal need for reading glasses.

 

No, this grayness is something else. It bleeds over, dimming the pleasure I get from everyday activities, even diminishing my desires and dreams. I’m no longer able to imagine the future beyond Christmas and think, “Oh I can’t wait to go here or do this or that next year.”

It’s a restlessness, a feeling of being incomplete and lost even in familiar surroundings. I’ve noticed the more time I spend talking to the Lord and reading His Word, the less important it all becomes and the more I crave His presence and touch. I’m compelled and drawn to privately shut myself away and commune with someone I can’t see or audibly hear or touch. Oh, but He’s there…and when I am touched by His irresistible Spirit, I am all at once filled yet left wanting more.

I’ve struggled with clinical depression for many, many years, and this is not depression. Believe me, I know the difference! No, this is a yearning so intense it’s almost painful, like being separated from a lover. It’s a longing for home. We Christians truly are aliens on this earth. We don’t belong here and the closer we draw to God, the less interest we have in earthly things.

I can honestly say there is no amount of money or fame, no beauty or travel or even human relationship that could distract me from my greatest desire; to be with the one who created me and knows me best. To shed this decaying body and finally stand in the presence of the Almighty, Holy God who loves me beyond my wildest dreams. To meet face to face and see the smile of the Savior who died a horrible death to rescue me. What could this sin ravaged earth offer me that could possibly compare with that?

Everyone I talk to online or meet, even people I see being interviewed on TV, are expressing a feeling that life as we’ve always known it is rapidly coming to an end. We all intuitively sense this because we were created as spirits who possess a soul and live in a fleshly body. We can perceive that the unseen satanic activity around us is growing in strength, chaotically swirling toward disaster.

Those who are lost go about their daily lives with a nagging sense of unease. Some feel the need to hoard food and water in case of some shortage and people who are usually repelled by guns are buying firearms in record numbers, with plenty of ammo ‘just in case.’ In case of what? Where is this sense of uncertainly coming from? People are filled with a fear they cannot identify or even coherently verbalize. What in the world is going on?

This is the first time in our nation’s history that we have seen such an exponential increase in deadly, destructive natural disasters. We’re witnessing an unprecedented level of unrest breaking out all over the world; every night brings another news story showing great mobs of people demonstrating against their governments, wanting a change in leadership or angry about cutbacks in benefits they’re used to receiving.

The economies of wealthy countries, including America, are on the precipice of collapsing, which will bring…, what? No one really knows because this is all so unexpected and unpredictable. Even the leaders of these countries are at a loss, having no idea how to prevent the massive house of cards from falling.

Evil has exploded its boundaries in recent years, especially among children under 18 years of age! We now have preteens murdering younger kids, just to see what it feels like to kill. Teenagers are slaughtering their whole families because Mom or Dad wouldn’t allow something they wanted and even ten and eleven year olds are gang raping younger students in school!

Young people are confronting innocent citizens, physically attacking and robbing them while one of their own video tapes the incident on their cell phones. Then they’re crass and stupid enough to post the incident on You Tube for the whole world to watch!

Even man’s best friend has begun to turn on his master or other family members, tearing them apart and sometimes killing with seemingly no provocation whatsoever.

Mainstream churches are preaching heretical blather which is leading countless souls to hell; their pastors stubbornly unconcerned about their flocks unless, of course, the offerings aren’t large enough to pay for the mortgages on their temple palace as well as their personal one.

And to cap it all off, one of the most disgusting, disturbing things to spring up amongst the garbage that is broadcast on television, we have the Kardashians. They just won’t go away! I really couldn’t care less what or who Kim is doing this week!

No wonder the longing for heaven is growing stronger every day! This life consists of never ending drudgery. Laundry procreates overnight in my closet, becoming more massive in volume every morning. Clean the house. Wash the car. Walk the dogs. Pick up the kid. Go to the grocery store. Blah, blah, blah. It’s all just different shades of gray.

Even the fear of death is gone now. I still fear the manner of death I might one day face, but death itself would be a most welcome relief.

Of course, I love the company of my son and husband along with my extended family. I’m able to enjoy my pets quite a bit; they are about the only things that make me laugh out loud now. I am blessed to know all those I love and cherish are ready to meet God. They are saved and prepared to leave this world when Christ yells out, “Come up hither!” That is all the treasure I need.

So, can you blame me for seeing this world as a decaying, moral sewer? I’m not depressed or even pessimistic. I am a realist who is not afraid to face facts. Time is running out and there are billions of people who will be left behind to face the horrors that will occur when we are snatched out of here. No Godly influence will be left to speak against or fight the evil rapidly wrapping itself around this world.

What is so great about this existence, filled with nothing but the dullness of grime and filth that you’re stubbornly holding onto? What could possibly be so captivating that causes you to ignore the coming collapse of society and the emergence of the New World Order?

A raise? The new sports car or that bigger, badder house? A secret lover your spouse knows nothing about? Your stupid golf game?? This is eternity I’m talking about! We who are looking for our Savior will be gone when everyone least expects it and faster than you can blink your eyes. And when we are gone, all hell will break loose!

To whom will you sell your soul when you’re forced to choose? Make no mistake, you WILL have to choose! Once you wake up and realize your nightmare existence is permanent, will you surrender your heart to the one who died for you and wants to welcome you into endless joy in heaven? Are you willing to pay the price of martyrdom that will be the likely result of that delayed decision? Or will this world, with its various shades of gray be more enticing?

Your moment of making a comfortable, leisurely choice is quickly coming to a close. Look around. There’s nothing here for you…

Today is the day of salvation! You DON’T want to be left behind…

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May 19

ISRAEL ATTACK STRATEGY COMING TOGETHER

Israel’s recent acquisition of a fourth electric-powered submarine from Germany suggests that those vessels, which are capable of firing a nuclear-tipped missile, will play a role in any attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities, regional experts explain in a report in Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin.

Israel, which now has four such submarines, intends to have up to six of them.

Other scenarios to attack Iran’s nuclear sites appear to be risky at best and logistically complex with the high prospect of being detected before any such mission could be completed. Israel’s submarines with nuclear-tipped missiles could be used in combination with nuclear-tipped Jericho II missiles that can be launched from Israel itself.

The submarines could venture into the northern Arabian Sea and launch missiles at the hard-to-reach facilities that may be embedded in mountains.

As G2Bulletin recently reported, Israel had positioned two covert ships in the same region to gather intelligence on Iran’s missile and other military activities. The ships reportedly were not warships but civilian-type ships equipped with highly sophisticated command, control, communications, computers, intelligence-gathering and surveillance technology, commonly referred to as C4ISR.

While Israel has some so-called U.S. bunker buster bombs that may be able to penetrate some of these difficult locations, it not only would require high-flying aircraft needing to be refueled a number of times going to the target and returning but there remain issues on what routes the bombers would take.

In addition, some of the Iranian nuclear facilities may be so hardened to the point that even these bunker-busters may not be sufficient. In that case, sources believe that Israel could equip its nuclear-tipped missiles both on the submarines and the Jericho II’s with tactical nuclear weapons to achieve the destruction of the targeted sites.

Sources say that such targeting would not include every nuclear facility but only those which Israel has determined are most critical for the Iranian manufacture of nuclear weapons.

Israel and some Western nations have expressed concern over their belief Iran is developing nuclear weapons.

For its part, Iran vehemently denies such activity is under way with its nuclear enrichment program which it says it needs to refuel its nuclear reactors and for medical research.

In addition, Iran asserts its right to undertake such activity as a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

Israel, however, is not a signatory and is assessed by the U.S. intelligence community to have more than 200 strategic and tactical nuclear weapons at its disposal.

While Israel officially denies having such weapons, having submarines equipped with nuclear-capable missiles, Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak recently said, is necessary “in the face of the growing regional challenges,” referring to Iran

Permanent link to this article: http://discerningthetimes.me/2012/05/19/israel-attack-strategy-coming-together/

May 19

Iranian Paper Boasts of End to U.S.-Israel Alliance, Predicts Destruction of Israel After Fall of Saudi Royal Family

An Iranian newspaper tied to Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei recently boasted that the U.S. has “rejected” Israel over the past three months. This belief could have disastrous consequences. The author writes that the only “obstacle” remaining is the Saudi Royal Family and once it falls, Israel can be destroyed.

“It can be said that within the last 60 years, this is the first time that the Zionist regime, since its illegal inception, has had to endure rejection by the West over its vision and interest in the region,” wrote Sadollah Zarei, according to a translation by Reza Kahlili.

It’s easy to see why Iran has picked up on this fact, which Democrats have desperately tried to deny throughout Obama’s tenure. Headline after headline is about the U.S. trying to hold Israel back. In March, an anonymous administration official told the Washington Post, “We’re trying to make the decision to attack as hard as possible for Israel.”

There’s been a steady stream of leaks from administration officials potentially damaging Israel. On March 28, Foreign Policy reported on the alleged existence of a secret agreement between Israel and Azerbaijan making the latter’s airbases available for a potential strike on Iran. The results of a classified war game simulating a conflict between Israel and Iran that showed hundreds of U.S. casualties made its way into the press. Another report claimed that Israel is using members of the MEK Iranian opposition group to target Iran’s nuclear scientists.

The author attributes the change in U.S. policy to recognition of Iranian strength because of the Arab Spring, which he refers to as the “Islamic Awakening.” He specifically mentions the removal of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and the subsequent takeover of the country by Islamist forces. Zarei also claims that the U.S. is “on the verge of accepting the Iranian nuclear program” and points to statements by Israeli officials that Iran is “rational” as proof that the Israeli government is weakening.

The Coming Is upon Us

Don’t let the fact that Iran is Shiite and the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafists are Sunni fool you. The two forces may be battling in Syria, but the Iranian regime still believes that its rise is a fulfillment of Islamic End Times prophecy. Last year, Ahmadinejad’s office produced a documentary titled The Coming Is upon Us. It outlined how it views its role in Islamic prophecy and plainly states that the Muslim Brotherhood’s ascendance is “in accordance with the Hadith.”

In February, Khamenei declared, “From now on, in any place, if any nation or any group confronts the Zionist regime, we will endorse and we will help.” This should be seen as an overture to the Muslim Brotherhood. The film states that the destruction of Israel is preceded by the creation of an anti-Western Arab coalition.

Arguably the most important line in Zarei’s column is this: “With diminishing support for Israel and with the (upcoming) collapse of the monarchy in Saudi Arabia, there won’t be any obstacles left facing Iran with its policy of annihilation of Israel.”

This statement echoes what the apocalyptic documentary said. In The Coming Is upon Us, the regime teaches that the death of Saudi King Abdullah will be a fulfillment of prophecy and one of the last precursors to Israel’s destruction. Saudi Arabia will be consumed with internal turmoil until the Mahdi appears to vanquish Islam’s enemies. King Abdullah is at least 87 years old.

In August, a Hezbollah MP in Lebanon, retired Brigadier-General Walid Sakariya, stated that two other things must happen before the final war to destroy Israel can begin: U.S. forces must leave Iraq and the Assad regime in Syria must be secure. The first objective has been completed.

President Ahmadinejad recently stated the war is not necessary to destroy Israel if the Arab world unites against it. However, the voices describing such a war in detail are getting louder.

In February, the deputy-commander of the Iranian military announced a change in policy. “Our strategy now is that if we feel our enemies want to endanger Iran’s national interests, and want to decide to do that, we will act without waiting for their actions,” he said.

Around the same time, the director of the parliament’s research institute, Ahmed Tavakoli, said Iran should attack Israel by the end of the year, urging the regime to take advantage of the political climate in the U.S. Tavakoli said that Iranian missiles could pummel the coastal area to the south of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem in order to degrade Israel’s retaliatory capacity. He said that the Dimona nuclear reactor and a smaller reactor south of Tel Aviv must also be destroyed.

That same month, the former governor of Kish Province and pro-Khamenei strategist, Alireza Forghani, went even further and outlined a strategy of genocide against the Jewish population of Israel. His analysis was reposted at several other regime websites, most notably the Fars News Agency operated by the Revolutionary Guards.

Forghani said that Shahab-3 missiles could destroy Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and Haifa, eliminating 60% of the Jews in Israel. Nuclear reactors, air force bases and airbases should be targeted in the first wave by Sejil missiles. Secondary targets would include power plants, communication sites, transportation sites and sewage treatment facilities. Altogether, he said, it would take about nine minutes. He strongly recommended that the attack happen before 2014. That is when Ahmadinejad’s term ends.

This genocidal madness was endorsed by Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi, an influential hardline cleric. Reza Kahlili reports that he recently ruled that all Israelis who did not oppose the country’s “vicious crimes” are legitimate targets. Mesbah-Yazdi has written in support of Iran acquiring nuclear weapons and one of his disciples issued a fatwa in 2006 justifying their use.

Policymakers need to recognize that public tensions between the U.S. and Israel and displays of American weakness reinforce the regime’s beliefs. In The Coming Is upon Us, the regime uses quotes from U.S. officials stating that there is no viable military option against Iran as proof that prophecy is being fulfilled.

No good comes from making Iran believe that the U.S. isn’t interested in defending Israel.

Permanent link to this article: http://discerningthetimes.me/2012/05/19/iranian-paper-boasts-of-end-to-u-s-israel-alliance-predicts-destruction-of-israel-after-fall-of-saudi-royal-family/

May 19

Syria’s Assad ‘doomed,’ says Israel’s Barak

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Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is “doomed,” Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak said Wednesday, urging the international community to increase pressure on his embattled regime.

Assad’s departure would be a “major blow” to Iran as well as Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad, he said, while stressing the importance of Russia’s role in finding a way out of the current crisis.

He also warned that only Assad and the elites around him need to go, and not other structures of the Syrian regime including the army.

“I’m quite frustrated for the slowness of its collapse. I believe that he (Assad) is doomed anyhow. I believe that there is a need to raise our voices both for moral reasons and practical … much more loudly,” he told CNN.

He said it was important “that every possible step is taken by world community, by NATO, by the United States, by the Russians, Turkey could have a special role in it, to accelerate the whole thing.”

“I think that a way should be found .. to change (the regime) in Syria, preferably (using) the Yemenite example, namely to let Assad and his group go out and … not to dismantle the party, the intelligence, the armed forces.”

Barak was speaking after flying to Washington for the third time in as many months, as world powers prepared for fresh talks with Iran on its nuclear program.

Israeli and the United States are “basically … on the same page” over Tehran, he said. “We say loud and clear, the Americans say the same, the president says the same, a nuclear military Iran is unacceptable.

“We are determined to prevent them from turning nuclear. And that no option except for containment, no option should be removed off the table in order to achieve this objective.”

Toppling Assad would seriously hurt Tehran, he said. “It will be a major blow to Iran when Assad falls, they are now supporting him very actively. It will be a weakening blow to the Hezbollah and probably Islamic Jihad.”

Permanent link to this article: http://discerningthetimes.me/2012/05/19/syrias-assad-doomed-says-israels-barak/

May 19

Important Please Read this! Will Iran Strike New York City on 9/11 Scale?

New York City: It’s the center of the U.S. financial system and for many people, the capital of the world. That’s why the Big Apple remains a top terror target.

From the 1993 World Trade Center bombing to 9/11, and more recently, the Times Square bomber, terrorists have repeatedly targeted Manhattan.

Now Iran, the world’s largest state sponsor of terror, is reportedly taking aim.

A recent warning about the threat posed by Iran and its terror proxy, Hezbollah, came from lawmakers on Capitol Hill.

“We know Hezbollah operatives are here,” Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.,  told a House committee on homeland security in March.

“The question is whether these Hezbollah operatives have the capacity to carry out attacks on the U.S. homeland and how quickly they can become fully operational,” he said.

King said hundreds of operatives are here and that some Iranian diplomats stationed at the United Nations are much more than they appear.

“Several of their comrades in the U.N. mission in New York were sent back to Iran after the NYPD caught them photographing the city’s rail systems in the years since 9/11,” he said.

According to one NYPD official, there have been at least five other instances of what he called “hostile reconnaissance” against New York City by Iranian agents.

“They see that attacking New York or threatening the facilities in New York will destabilize the financial markets and automatically harm the U.S. economy,” former CIA double agent Reza Kahlili told CBN News.

Kahlili was once a member of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards Corps. His book, A Time to Betray, lays out Iran’s potential plots against America.

“Many cells are present here. And they have their eyes set on our power plants, water supply, food distribution, bridges, tunnels — anything that could create fear and also disrupt the daily life of Americans,” he warned.

One Iranian naval commander said recently that Iran’s forces can move within three miles of New York City if they so choose.

Kahlili said an attack against Iran’s nuclear facilities could be the trigger.

“They believe that an attack on Syria or Iran would be sufficient to trigger a response, which would be terrorist attacks on the world stage against U.S. and Israeli interests, an attack on Israel and attacks on U.S. soil,” Kahlili said.

Iran shocked many analysts with last year’s plot to attack foreign diplomats in Washington, D.C. A nuclear-armed Iranian regime would likely become even bolder.

“You can tell that Iran gets more aggressive the closer they get toward a nuclear weapon,” Ryan Mauro, a national security analyst for RadicalIslam.org, told CBN News.

“Rather than international pressure making them restrain themselves, it’s actually making them act more and more aggressively,” he said.

Iran and Hezbollah already have an extensive network in Latin America, which they could use to strike at the United States. And according to Kahlili, Iranian agents also have a presence in some American mosques.

Permanent link to this article: http://discerningthetimes.me/2012/05/19/important-please-read-this-will-iran-strike-new-york-city-on-911-scale/

May 17

The Collapse of the Euro: The Collapse of the Euro-Centered End-Time Perspective?

New article from Joel Richardson. Enjoy!

 

If the Euro collapses, which I certainly hope does not happen, what will this mean for the long-held view that the present European Union is that which the prophets spoke of? Will some simply claim that this was all foretold? When we look at the relevant texts that speak of the last days empire, we see that Scripture simply does not allow for this. There is no room for a revived, revived Roman Empire. Those who have held to the Roman Eschatological Paradigm will either acknowledge the error of the Euro-centric view, or they will be forced to harden their position, ultimately committing violence to the relevant biblical passages.

Consider the following: Whether it be Daniel 2, Daniel 7 or Revelation 17, each passage points to the same final empire. In Daniel 2, it is out of the legs of iron that the final antichristic empire of mixed clay and iron feet directly emerges. In Daniel 7, it is out of the fourth beast that the ten horn antichristic confederacy directly emerges. In Revelation 17, the eighth and final antichristic kingdom is simply a revival of the seventh. Many students of prophecy today, including some of my critics, hold to the following interpretation of Revelation 17:

Sixth head: Roman Empire

Seventh head: Revived Roman Empire

Eighth head: Global Empire.

The glaring problem with this of course is that it clashes with both Daniel 2 and Daniel 7. If Revelation 17 speaks of a Roman Empire, Revived Roman Empire, Global Antichristic Empire, then where in the dream of the metallic statue or the vision of the fourth beast would two distinct empires fit after the legs of iron or the fourth beast? There is simply no room.

This is one more reason to understand both the legs of iron in Daniel 2 and the fourth beast of Daniel 7 to represent the historical Islamic Caliphate. In such a view, Revelation 17 is understood in a way that makes complete sense and does not require a forcing of one’s view (eisegesis) into the text. Instead, we see that the sixth head represents the Roman Empire, the seventh head represents the Islamic Caliphate and the eighth head represents the revived Islamic Caliphate of the Antichrist. Why is Rome never included in either Daniel 2 or 7 you may ask? The answer is simply because these passages are both Babylon centric in their context. Daniel 2 was a dream given specifically to Nebuchadnezzar, king of ancient Babylon, centered in modern day Iraq. The specific subject of the vision were those kingdoms that would come after his. The fourth empire, (the legs of iron) is said to conquer all three of the other empires in the dream. History testifies to the fact that while the Islamic Caliphate did in fact conquer all of the land holdings of Babylon, Medo-Persia and the Alexandrian Greek Empires, the Roman Empire did not. In its fifteen hundred year life, the Roman Empire only reached the ruined city of Babylon for a few brief months, before withdrawing west of the Euphrates. In my new book, Mideast Beast: The Scriptural Case For an Islamic Antichrist, I thoroughly document the impossibility of the Roman-centered view on these matters.

So, as the collapse of the Euro monetary unity appears to loom over all of us, how will such an global earthquake affect the popular, but equally collapsing Euro-centered perspective on the end times? It appears as though we may find out very soon. According to comments made today by the New York Times economic columnist Paul Krugman, it could happen in months…

Here’s how Krugman puts it:

Some of us have been talking it over, and here’s what we think the end game looks like:

1. Greek euro exit, very possibly next month.

2. Huge withdrawals from Spanish and Italian banks, as depositors try to move their money to Germany.

3a. Maybe, just possibly, de facto controls, with banks forbidden to transfer deposits out of country and limits on cash withdrawals.

3b. Alternatively, or maybe in tandem, huge draws on ECB credit to keep the banks from collapsing.

4a. Germany has a choice. Accept huge indirect public claims on Italy and Spain, plus a drastic revision of strategy — basically, to give Spain in particular any hope you need both guarantees on its debt to hold borrowing costs down and a higher eurozone inflation target to make relative price adjustment possible; or:

4b. End of the euro.

And we’re talking about months, not years, for this to play out.

Permanent link to this article: http://discerningthetimes.me/2012/05/17/the-collapse-of-the-euro-the-collapse-of-the-euro-centered-end-time-perspective/

May 17

Jeremiah Wright: I ‘Made It Comfortable’ For Obama To Accept Christianity Without Having To Renounce His Islamic Background

There is always more to the story. In this case it is not good. It just shows you as believers in the King we need to really do our homework! Keep looking up!

 

By Jim Hoft, Gateway Pundit – “In a shocking interview yesterday on the Sean Hannity Radio Show, author Ed Klein said Barack Obama’s former pastor helped Obama accept Christianity without having to renounce Islam.

The Daily Caller reported:

Klein also said Wright told him he “made it comfortable” for Obama to accept Christianity without having renounce his “Islamic background,” which Klein said he has on tape.

Here is Ed Klein on Hannity talking about his interview with Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

Klein spoke more on this in a separate interview with NewsMax:

Klein says Obama originally sought out Wright to discuss community activism.

“Quickly the conversations turned from picking up garbage on the street and getting streetlights put up on street corners to political matters and religious matters,” Klein says. “And the Rev. Wright turned into really a substitute father figure, who guided Obama in the two major areas of his life.”

The first area was Obama’s identity — just who was he?

“Obama was steeped in Islam but knew nothing about Christianity,” Klein says.

Klein asked Wright if he converted Obama from being a Muslim into a Christian.

“He said, I don’t know about that. but I can tell you that I made it easy for him to come to an understanding of who Jesus Christ is and not feel that he was turning his back on his Islamic friends and his Islamic traditions and his understanding of Islam,” Klein says.

The second area was Obama’s political philosophy. Wright introduced Obama to Black Liberation theology.

Permanent link to this article: http://discerningthetimes.me/2012/05/17/jeremiah-wright-i-made-it-comfortable-for-obama-to-accept-christianity-without-having-to-renounce-his-islamic-background/

May 17

New US battle strategy against Iran in US movements and Israeli drill

A series of apparently unconnected military movements observed in Middle East seas and skies in the last tendays  have a common factor: introduction of the new US Air Sea Battle (ASB) doctrine, which is designed to make the most of tightly coordinated operations by air, land, sea, undersea, space and cyberspace capabilities for defeating those of the enemy. 

Monday, May 14, the day that Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal warned Iran not to meddle in the evolving Saudi-Bahraini union, large US Navy and Marine forces put into Jeddah port for first time in 11 years.
Last week, Israel’s Navy and Air Force and their special operations units - Shaldag, Shayetet 13 and 960 Task Force – carried out their largest combined exercise ever in the Mediterranean. It ended with Israeli surface ships and submarines arrayed in a dense defensive line against enemy vessels armed with unconventional weapons approaching the Israeli coast.
The Israeli exercise, which ended May 13, practiced the new American ABS doctrine of simultaneously massing large-scale sea and air strength against Iran on two seas, in this case, the Mediterranean and Persian Gulf. It also drilled operating in unison with their American counterparts under the same doctrine.
debkafile’s military sources report that Washington timed the unveiling of the new battle strategy for May 10, two weeks before the Six Power nuclear talks with Iran resume in Baghdad.

US Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Jon Greenert explained that the ASB concept was developed  ”to defeat A2AD (Anti-Access/Area Denial) strategies such as the closure of the (Hormuz) strait, cyber attack, mines, cruise and ballistic missiles and air defense systems, threats enhanced by technological advancements.”

Our military sources add: The concept is also closely applicable to American tactics for defending the Persian Gulf nations against possible Iranian aggression as the GCC takes its first unification steps to shore up its defenses against that threat.
Adm. Greenert wrote:  “There’s been attention recently about closing an international strait using, among other means, mines, fast boats, cruise missiles and mini-subs.”
debkafile: Those are precisely the systems Iran’s Revolutionary Guards hold ready for a decision to block the strategic Strait of Hormuz to international oil traffic.

 

 

ABS concepts include “submarines hitting air defense and cruise missiles in support of Air Force bombers: F-22 Air Force stealth fighters taking out enemy cruise missile threats to Navy ships.”
Adm. Greenert was the first senior American commander to put on public record the measures for repelling Iranian cruise missile attacks on US aircraft carriers deployed in the Persian Gulf. He also spelled out the mission for which a squadron of F-22 jets was stationed at the Al Dhafra air base in late April.

DEBKA-Net-Weekly 539 revealed on May 4 that a second squadron was due to land soon in the Gulf region.

On May 16, Adm. Greenert and US Air Force chief Gen. Norton Schwartz are to discuss the ABS in a public event at the Brookings Institute in Washington.
US and Israeli air, sea and special forces have meanwhile begun operating under the new doctrine in the Mediterranean, the Red Sea and Persian Gulf.  Monday, the US Amphibious Ready Group, 24th MEU, led by the USS Iwo Jima put into Jeddah, the Saudi Navy’s Red Sea command port, with 2,200 Marines aboard.
It was the first time since the 2001 Gulf War that the Saudis had permitted US naval and air units of this size to anchor in one of their ports and, moreover, allowed American military personnel to show themselves in its streets.
The GCC summit which began in Riyadh on the same day had three key items on its agenda: Iran’s military, political and covert threat to the region’s stability; the Syrian crisis; and unification steps between Saudi Arabia and Bahrain to ward off Iranian interference in the Shiite-led unrest. 

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May 17

MARK THIS DATE FOR POTENTIAL DISASTER

Interesting concept. See what you think. I read the Harbinger and find it to be biblically sound! There is a clear pattern for America found here. Keep looking up!

Isaiah 9:10 Code suggests watchful eye on specific day

WASHINGTON – If the world makes it through the end of the Mayan calendar this year, a pattern of recent economic disasters based on the Hebrew calendar portends what some suspect we will be the biggest U.S. financial calamity yet Sept. 13, 2015.

The No. 1 bestselling Christian book in America, “The Harbinger” by Jonathan Cahn, points out that the Americans two greatest financial shakings, occurred on successive Hebrew Shmitah years following the 9/11 Islamist terror attacks on the U.S., the key to the series of limited judgments the author sees as a result of America’s turning away from God just as ancient Israel did before the dispersion.

While Cahn prefers not to speculate on what, if anything, might befall America on Sept. 13, 2015, it will be the next Shmitah year – which occurs on Elul 29 every seven years on the Hebrew calendar. It is a time when debts are to be forgiven and the land, in the agricultural communities of ancient Israel were to be given a rest.

Sept. 17, 2001, was the beginning of the economic calamity associated with 9/11 and the lowering of interest rates by the Fed resulting in the collapse of the stock market Sept. 17, 2001 – Elul 29 on the Hebrew calendar. Likewise, Sept. 29, 2008, marked the next big crash. Sept. 29, 2008, also fell on Elul 29.

All of this is laid out in a new documentary video called “The Isaiah 9:10 Judgment,” the leading faith video in the nation and one of the top-selling documentaries of any kind, produced by Joseph Farah and WND Films.

Farah believes the date Sept. 13, 2015 bears close watching – though he is quick to admit he has no idea what, if anything, will happen in America.

“A clear pattern has been established,” he says. “I don’t believe it’s a coincidence what happened in America on Elul 29 in 2001 and 2008. It would be foolish to ignore the possibility that a greater judgment might be in the works – especially if America continues to move away from God and His Word.”

It’s also worth noting that Elul 29, 2015, represents the eve of the Feast of Trumpets or Rosh Hashana at sundown. An unusual astronomical phenomenon, a blood red moon – or tetrad – is expected to occur that evening, according to NASA. The Feast of Trumpets begins a period known by Jews as “the days of awe” that lasts through Yom Kippur a week later.

Hebrew roots pastor Mark Biltz of El Shaddai Ministries in Washington state noted several years ago that a cluster of tetrads will occur in 2014 and 2015 – all of them on Hebrew high holidays. There won’t be any more for the rest of the 21st century.

Joel 2:31 says: “The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the LORD come.” Other biblical references can be found in Acts 2:20 and Revelation 6:12.

Whether or not anything significant occurs of a prophetic nature Sept. 13, 2015, Farah said he is immensely pleased with the documentary treatment of the message found in the best-selling book “The Harbinger” by Jonathan Cahn, which has remained on the New York Times bestsellers list for all of 2012.

“If you haven’t seen this movie yet, I urge you to get it, screen it with your family, show it to your friends and arrange church viewings,” said Farah. “This is the most important project I have been involved in through my 35-year media career. This is a message, I believe, God directed me to undertake for a time such as this.”

In January, “The Harbinger” by Cahn, a messianic rabbi from New Jersey, exploded onto the publishing scene, immediately becoming a surprise New York Times bestseller, already read by hundreds of thousands nationwide.

“A number of years ago, as I was standing at the edge of Ground Zero in New York City, I came across the first puzzle piece of an ancient biblical mystery and a prophetic message known as ‘The Harbinger’ that concerns the future of America,” explains Cahn, who helped write the two-hour documentary “The Isaiah 9:10 Judgment.”

Cahn says he has since found nine harbingers that tie the problems America has experienced beginning Sept. 11, 2001, to parallels that led to the destruction of ancient Israel.

“Before God judges a nation, He sends warning,” explains Cahn. “He sent warning to ancient Israel. He even allowed its enemies to breach its borders in a devastating strike that would traumatize the nation. It was a wake-up call, the call to return to God. But the nation responded with defiance. God then gave nine harbingers of judgment, nine prophetic signs, alarms and foreshadows of what was to come. Now America is the nation in rapid departure from God’s will. And God likewise allowed an enemy to breach its borders in a devastating strike – the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. It was, likewise, a wake-up call. But America, like Israel, has not responded with repentance, but with defiance. And now the nine harbingers of judgment have reappeared and have done so on American soil.”

Isaiah 9:10 is a verse in which Israel’s national leaders utter a vow of defiance following an attack by Assyria. It declared that the nation would not repent before God but would defy Him instead. Cahn reveals in “The Harbinger” – and in even more dramatic fashion in the video – that beginning the day after Sept. 11, 2001, American leaders began repeating that 2,500-year-old vow, word for word.

“Having no idea what he was doing, the majority leader of the U.S. Senate (Tom Daschle) was declaring America as under the judgment of God,” Cahn says. “It was the reenactment of an ancient mystery – and bore the most grave of consequences.”

He continues: “According to the ancient mystery revealed in the Book of Isaiah, if after that first calamity and warning, the nation doesn’t return to God but responds in defiance, it will end up triggering a second calamity. It was because of this ancient key, that, seven years after 9/11, the American economy collapsed.

In the days after 9/11, the Federal Reserve slashed the base interest rate in an attempt to defy the consequences of the attacks. That action put us on the path leading to the collapse of the American economy seven years later. In 2008, the government made a second fatal mistake, another ill-fated financial decision, that would trigger the collapse of the American economy. Amazingly, it took place on the seventh anniversary of the uttering of the ancient vow on Capitol Hill.”

Cahn also reveals in “The Harbinger” and “The Isaiah 9:10 Judgment” something that readers and viewers universally find astonishing – that New York’s Ground Zero actually represents more than the former financial center of the country. It represents the exact place at which America was first consecrated to God in prayer by the country’s new leaders.

“When judgment came to Israel, the calamity returned the people’s attention to the place where the nation had been consecrated to God – the Temple Mount,” says Cahn.

“God was calling the nation back to Himself. What about 9/11? Could there be, in the American calamity, as well, a mystery of return? Could there be a prophetic message hidden in the place where it happened? There is a place where America was consecrated to God in prayer. It is also a place linked to a prophetic warning given on that same day – uttered by the nation’s first president – now coming to pass.”

In 1789, newly inaugurated President George Washington gave a prophetic warning at Federal Hall in New York City. He declared that America’s prosperity and protection were dependent upon its adherence to God.

Later, the political leaders of the young nation gathered at St. Paul’s Chapel to commit the nation’s future to God’s purposes. That chapel is located at Ground Zero and miraculously survived 9/11 virtually unscathed. But the foundation of Federal Hall was ominously cracked.

All of this is covered in “The Isaiah 9:10 Judgment,” using actual archival footage along with narration by Cahn.

“I had a chance to hear Jonathan Cahn’s message last fall,” said Farah. “Then I had an opportunity to read an early manuscript of ‘The Harbinger’ before it was released in January. I was determined to produce this video documentary, ‘The Isaiah 9:10 Judgment,’ because I believe its message is the most important one for Americans at this moment in history. In fact, I believe this project may be the most important one of my life. That’s how strongly I feel about it.”

The key to decoding the harbingers, Cahn says, is found in understanding the seemingly innocuous words of Isaiah 9:10 (King James Version), what it meant to Israel and how the history seems to be repeating itself in America today: “The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with hewn stones: The sycamores are cut down, but we will change them into cedars.”

These words were first uttered by leaders in Israel and in response to a limited strike by Assyria on the lands of Zebulun and Naphtali – an attack the prophet makes clear is actually part of a limited judgment by God against apostasy. It wasn’t meant to destroy the nation, but to awaken it, according to most commentaries.

But, says Cahn, Israel didn’t take the cue. Instead, the response from the people in Isaiah 9:10 is one of defiance. The brick buildings were toppled, but they vowed to build bigger and better. The little sycamore trees may have been uprooted, but they vowed to plant bigger and better cedars in their place.

God, speaking through Isaiah, explains what will happen as a result of their pride and arrogance and failure to heed the harbinger: Bigger and more potent attacks will follow.

Because neither the northern kingdom of Israel nor the southern kingdom of Judah truly repents, the first is eventually swept away by Assyrian invaders and the latter is carried off into captivity by the Babylonians for 70 years.

But what does this have to do with the United States of America – particularly what the U.S. experienced on 9/11 and since? Cahn has found some eerie parallels.

“In the aftermath of the attack, the nation was stunned,” said Cahn. “Everyone was trying to make sense of what had happened – this unprecedented attack on America. The very next day, Sept. 12, then Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle presented America’s response to the world. And what did he say?”

Daschle said: “America will emerge from this tragedy as we have emerged from all adversity – united and strong. Nothing … nothing can replace the losses of those who have suffered. I know there is only the smallest measure of inspiration that can be taken from this devastation. But there is a passage in the Bible from Isaiah that speaks to all of us at times like this.”

The majority leader then went on to read Isaiah 9:10.

“Daschle has no idea what he is doing here,” explains Cahn. “He thinks he’s offering comforting words to a grief-stricken people, but he is actually embracing the spiritually defiant and arrogant words of the children of Israel, proclaiming the ancient and ominous vow of the leaders of that nation. He doesn’t realize it, but he is actually inviting more judgment on the nation.”

It might be of some significance that Daschle, one of the most powerful men in the nation when he spoke those words, later fell into disgrace – to the point where he couldn’t even serve in Barack Obama’s Cabinet.
That might have been the end of the story – if no other top leader in the nation uttered those strange and obscure words after 9/11. But that’s not the case.

On the third anniversary of the attack, Sept. 11, 2004, another powerful U.S. senator running for vice president that year, and who would famously run for the presidency four years later, gave a speech to the Congressional Black Caucus.

This time, John Edwards’ entire speech was built on a foundation of Isaiah 9:10.

“Today, on this day of remembrance and mourning, we have the Lord’s Word to get us through,” he said.

He then read Isaiah 9:10. He went on to talk about how America was doing just that – rebuilding with hewn stone and planting cedars.

 “Like Daschle, Edwards thinks he’s invoking inspirational and comforting words from the Bible, but he’s actually inviting judgment on America,” says Cahn. “He’s repeating the vow that provoked God to bring calamity on ancient Israel.”

Even more astonishing, Daschle and Edwards were not alone among U.S. leaders in making similar statements, as “The Isaiah 9:10 Judgment” shows. Even Barack Obama’s Inauguration Address in 2009 made similarly eerie allusions.

But aside from such statements, which could be chalked up to political talk and coincidences, is there anything else linking Isaiah 9:10 to 9/11?

The video documentary, like the book, is full of shocking parallels. There was actually a very famous sycamore tree felled in the attack on the World Trade Center. It was replaced by trees in the same genus as the cedar. There have been many plans made to rebuild the twin towers bigger and better and a large “hewn stone” was actually quarried out of the Adirondack Mountains in New York and brought to Ground Zero as a cornerstone.

“The parallels are truly stunning,” says Farah, founder of WND, who produced the documentary for WND Films. “In fact, they are overwhelming in their number and their exactitude. I am persuaded God is trying to tell America something and Rabbi Cahn has found the key to unlocking the message.”

Farah says events continue to unfold that seem to link directly to the message of Isaiah 9:10 right here in the United States.

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May 15

HOMOSEXUALITY, MEGACHURCHES, AND ANDY STANLEY

What Bible are these Christian pastors and leaders using? My Bible says marriage is between a man and a woman! We need to be calling homosexuality out for the sin it is. While it is no worse in God;s eyes than any other sin, it is the topic that is being pushed on the church more and more in today’s PC driven culture. And now we have gay marriage coming to the front. There needs to be more outrage in the church about false teaching!  We are told to call out false teaching so that is what I am doing as a watchman. We need to pray for Andy Stanley. He is defintely wrong on this subject and as the shepherd of many and misleading many we need to pray for his flock also!

In past articles like Jay Bakker Critiques Ken Silva At Religion Dispatches and Doug Pagitt And The Emerging Church Gay Agenda and  Gay Christian Singer Jennifer Knapp Out On Larry King Live here at Apprising Ministries I’ve been doing what I can to alert you.

You see, looming only slightly off the horizon of the mainstream evangelical community there is indeed a same-sex storm that’s right now gathering hurricane force.

Let me also tell you that the evil influence of the Emerging Church[1] is really going to be felt in the arena of a growing acceptance within evangelicalism that the deviant and sinful lifestyle of having sexual relations with another of the same sex, i.e homosexuality, is a viable one for the regenerated Christian.

The core EC doctrine of pietistic Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism (CSM)[2] has horribly corrupted younger sectors of evangelicalism, which have now largely abandoned the proper Christian spirituality of sola Scriptura. Unfortunately, once one does this, fallen human reasoning becomes the only criterion left when it comes to judging whether or not God has spoken.

If you want to know where the battle lines will be drawn, then take a good look at the mortally wounded mainline denominations who long ago gave in to the Cult of Liberalism and kicked out sola Scriptura as well. Behold the new progressive/liberal rebels against the authority of the Bible masquerading as evangelicals like gay-affirming “pastor” Jay Bakker[3].

You need to know that Bakker, who is good friends with EC guru Brian McLaren and EC progressive theologian Tony Jones[4], is the tip-of-the-spear for this EC area of attack upon proper Biblical Christianity. He’s also a perfect example of the new Morris Alpert “nothing more than feelings” theology that’s fast becoming such an integral part of mainstream evangelcalism.

Now we’re on the proper part of the battlefield for me to show you that a few days ago Southern Baptist megapastor Rick Warren would tweet to Dr. Al Mohler, also SBC:


(Online source)

And then about an hour later Warren said:


(Online source)

Those tweets by Rick Warren would then cause Christian Post to get involved with Warren Asks Mohler to Apologize for Megachurch Headline. Well, as a former Roman Catholic and fellow Southern Baptist with Al Mohler and Rick Warren, I’m asking Warren to apologize for his sinful ecumenicism, which I document once again in Rick Warren And Teachings Of Demons.

Somehow, even though it’s also a mega issue, I doubt that will make its way into CP. But be that as it may, this all actually started with another Southern Baptist pastor by the name of Andy Stanley. You may know he’s the son of über-popular former two-time SBC president Dr. Charles Stanley. However, what you may not know is that Andy Stanley’s most certainly no lightweight.

In fact, Stanley’s a major player in the Seeker Driven set and a pastor to his protégé prophet-pastors such as Steven Furtick. As that CP story points out, Mohler expressed:

concerns over a recent message preached by Andy Stanley, pastor of North Point Community Church in Alpharetta, Ga. As he described the account of a gay couple, Stanley mentioned the sin of adultery (one partner was still married to his wife) but did not affirm the sinfulness of homosexuality.

“The inescapable impression left by the account was that the sin of concern was adultery, but not homosexuality,” Mohler wrote, adding that he hopes Stanley will clarify his view on the issue. (Online source)

The sermon in question, When Gracie Met Truthy, is part 5 of his Christian series and was preached on 4/15/12. More on that in a moment. First, because Stanley’s very highly respected in that attractional megachurch set Mohler’s post was titled Is The Megachurch the New Liberalism? In it Al Mohler noted:

The emergence of the megachurch as a model of metropolitan ministry is one of the defining marks of evangelical Christianity in the United States. (Online source)

After providing some history and background of the megachurch Mohler begins to look at theology. He points out:

One megachurch pastor in Florida recently told me that the megachurches in his area were abandoning concern for biblical gender roles on a wholesale basis. As one pastor told him, you cannot grow a church and teach biblical  complementarianism. Even greater pressure is now exerted by the sexual revolution in general, and, more particularly, the question of homosexuality. (Online source)

Well, we’re already beginning to see ostensibly conservative attractional churches rejecting the Biblical teaching concerning pastors, e.g. Word Faith Pastrix Christine Caine Preaches Sunday Morning Sermon For Steven Furtick. Mohler then uses the issue of divorce to inform us that in many megachurches, “Church discipline disappeared and personal autonomy reigned triumphant.”

He then asks a key question:

Is the same pattern now threatening on the issue of homosexuality? No congregation will escape this question, but the megachurches are, once again, on the leading edge. (Online source)

This brings Mohler around to the aforementioned sermon by Andy Stanley. Mohler writes:

A shot now reverberating around the evangelical world was fired by Atlanta megachurch pastor Andy Stanley in recent days. Preaching at North Point Community Church,… Early in the message he spoke of homosexuals in attendance, mentioning that some had shared with him that they had come to North Point because they were tired of messages in gay-affirming churches that did nothing but affirm homosexuality. (Online source)

At first this might seem odd to you; but having much experience in dealing with the pro-homosexual lobby I can tell you that some so-called gay Christians have rather novel ways of interpreting Scripture so as to make it seem as if the Bible itself affirms homosexual behavior. So, for these practicing LGBT people, they prefer a more conservative church than those in liberal mainline denominations.

Mohler then turns to the section of Andy Stanley’s sermon which you’ll be able to watch for yourself in the video clip below:

in the most intense part of his message, Stanley told the congregation an account meant to illustrate his message. He told of a couple with a young daughter who divorced when the wife discovered that the husband was in a sexual relationship with another man. The woman then insisted that her former husband and his gay partner move to another congregation.

They did move, but to another North Point location, where they volunteered together as part of a “host team.” The woman later told Andy Stanley that her former husband and his partner were now involved as volunteers in the other congregational location.

The story took a strange turn when Stanley then explained that he had learned that the former husband’s gay partner was still married. Stanley then explained that the partner was actually committing adultery, and that the adultery was incompatible with his service on a host team. Stanley told the two men that they could not serve on the host team so long as the one man was still married.

He later told of the former wife’s decision not to live in bitterness, and of her initiative to bring the whole new family structure to a Christmas service. This included the woman, her daughter, her former husband, his gay partner, and his daughter. Stanley celebrated this new “modern family” as an expression of forgiveness. (Online source)

Now Mohler does mention that Stanley did share “Christ’s death for sinners,” however Stanley:

told the congregation that Jesus does not condemn them, even if they cannot or do not leave their life of sin. Declaring the death of Christ as atonement for sin is orthodox Christianity and this declaration is essential to the Gospel of Christ.

The problem was that Stanley never mentioned faith or repentance — which are equally essential to the Gospel. There is indeed no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, but this defines those who have acted in repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21). As for those who are not in Christ, they stand condemned already (John 3:18). (Online source)

If that wasn’t bad enough on Stanley’s part Mohler correctly tells us:

The most puzzling and shocking part of the message was the illustration and the account of the homosexual couple, however. The inescapable impression left by the account was that the sin of concern was adultery, but not homosexuality. Stanley clearly and repeatedly stressed the sin of adultery, but then left the reality of the homosexual relationship between the two men unaddressed as sin.

To the contrary, he seemed to normalize their relationship. They would be allowed to serve on the host team if both were divorced. The moral status of their relationship seemed to be questioned only in terms of adultery, with no moral judgment on their homosexuality. (Online source)

Mohler goes on to make another very important point concerning liberalism, and as he does, you should see the clear parallel with Seeker Driven attractional methodology:

One of those temptations is to use to use the argument that our message has to change in order to reach people. This was the impetus of theological liberalism’s origin. Liberals such as Harry Emerson Fosdick claimed that the Christian message would have to change or the church would lose all intellectual credibility in the modern world. Fosdick ended up denying the Gospel and transforming the message of the Cross into psychology.

Norman Vincent Peale came along and made this transformation even more appealing to a mass audience. Fosdick and Peale have no shortage of modern heirs. Theological liberalism did not set out to destroy Christianity, but to save it from itself. Is the same temptation now evident?
(Online source)

As far as I’m concerned the answer is: Absolutely. That’s why those with ears that hear and hearts that understand can see that the worldly pragmatism of the Seeker Driven camp and the postmodern neo-liberalism of the Emergent one are but two sides of the same man-centered coin. Consider the following from when Andy Stanley and his father Charles shared a platform at the Southern Baptist Pastors Conference in June of 2010.

There the younger Stanley discussed his pragmatic Church Growth Movement business model approach to church:

Andy recalled when, in the early 1990s, the Atlanta-based Chick-fil-A restaurants were facing stiff competition from the upstart Boston Market. Chick-fil-A leaders were trying to figure out how Chick-fil-A could get bigger, faster. Company founder Truett Cathy pounded on the table and said, “I am sick and tired of listening to you talk about how we can get bigger. If we get better, our customers will demand we get bigger.”

Applying Cathy’s prescription to church growth, Stanley said that getting better, and ultimately bigger, requires evaluation and clarification. “I think the local church should be the best-run organization in your town,” he said, because the church is “the vehicle through which the gospel is fed to and communicated to the whole world.”

Stanley cited the Intel Corporation, whose ever-escalating battle with Japanese companies in manufacturing computer chips ultimately caused the company to diversify and stop making the component. Intel leaders realized they needed to abandon their emotional attachment to what they’d always done and if they didn’t, they’d soon be out of the computer chip business.

Stanley lamented that “we fall in love with the way we do ministry.” (Online source)

In closing this, for now, Lord willing another time we may return to look at this segment below from the sermon in question in more depth. As you view it you can make up your own mind. In this clip Stanley first implies that Jesus was confused and conflicted; but leaving that aside, as I carefully evaluated this message, I came to the conclusion that Al Mohler’s assessment above is dead-on-target.

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