Category Archive: Rapture

Feb 20

Looking for His coming – David Wilkerson

Jesus says in Matthew 24:44, “Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.”

A characteristic of the bride of Christ is an expectancy of His soon return. Jesus’ bride is to live in continual, joyful expectation of His imminent return—because He may come at any moment.

Jesus warned, however, that in the last days evil ministers will infiltrate the church in an effort to put the bride to sleep. They will attempt to take away her heart of love for the Bridegroom by claiming, “My master is delaying his coming” (verse 48). This gospel is preached by those who do not want to pay the price of obeying Christ’s commands. They really do not want Jesus to come back because they have sinful habits and lead double lives; in fact, they have concocted a doctrine to justify their continuing in sin. What is the result of this false teaching? First, it ends in worldliness because those who believe it want to enjoy worldly success and prosperity.

Beloved, do not give in to this doctrine of delay! If you are a part of Jesus’ bride, you will be so lovesick for your Lord you will not be able to buy into it. Instead, you will cry out, “My Lord said I am to be ready at any moment for His return. I know He is near—I can sense it. My heart cries out within me, ‘Behold, the Bridegroom is coming!’”

The early church was wide awake, heeding Jesus’ words. Their lamps were trimmed and burning, and they had a good supply of oil. Peter summed up the spirit of the early church this way: “Looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God . . . nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth” (2 Peter 3:12-13). Likewise, Paul said: “[We are] eagerly waiting for the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ” (1 Corinthians 1:7).

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Feb 14

Why are people apathetic concerning the return of Christ?

This is an important discussion around the APATHY in the church around our blessed hope, the Return of Jesus!

Why are people apathetic concerning the return of Christ? – Nathan Jones – www.lamblion.com

 Explaining Away the Rapture

 Dr. Reagan: Have you ever given any thought as to what kind of explanation will be given by the world after the Rapture happens? When all these people disappear the world surely is going to have some wild explanations as to what happened so as to be able to deceive people.

 Dennis Pollock: I’m not sure, but I have a feeling they’ll at least be smart enough to figure out it was those religious fanatics who have all disappeared, you know, the ones who talked about Jesus and carried their Bibles around and went to Bible studies. They’ll be saying, “I always thought something no good was going to come of those faithful folks. Who knows where they are.”

 Nathan Jones: You do know that the New Agers would actually be rejoicing when we’re gone, for they’re expecting the Rapture as much as we are, but they think that Christians are holding back human evolution and have got to go. Once we’re gone they’ll think that’ll be a good thing that’s happened. Maybe they’ll explain the Rapture away with UFO’s or global warming.

 Dr. Reagan: True, as a matter of fact in the early 70′s books were written by the New Age Movement that said the masters of the universe which are their channeled spirits have revealed to them that a time is coming when they are going to remove from the world all those who live by faith so that those who live by reason can continue in their evolutionary development. I’m sure the New Agers will rush to the microphones and declare, “See, we told you back in 1970′s that this would happen.”

 Apathy Over the Lord’s Return

 Dr. Reagan: An attitude that seems to dominate the Church today regarding the Lord’s return is namely apathy. Why is there so much apathy about the Lord’s return when the signs of the times are literally screaming from the heavens that Jesus is about to return?

 Dennis Pollock: The Bible says, “faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.” So, if you don’t have faith, you may wish you had some faith, but you’ve got to do more than just wish for some faith. You’ve got to get into the Word and that faith will grow. That faith will come.

 Attraction to anything comes by exposure. The more you are exposed to something the more you become attracted. For example, we’ve all had songs we first heard and didn’t think too much of them, but when we kept on hearing them the more we began to enjoy them, and they may even have become our favorite songs, and all because we’d been exposed to them.

 Another example, when I was 19 I decided I was going to enter the world of adults and become a coffee drinker. It just seemed so cool to drink coffee. But, I hated the taste of coffee. I remember being at a friend’s house and his dad asked me if I wanted coffee and so all cool I answered, “Yeah, I’d like some coffee.” I was thinking I was a big old adult guy now. And so, he gave me this coffee and I took a sip, and instead of being cool my entire goal for that cup of coffee was to drink it without grimacing and making a terrible face! Over time, the more I became exposed to coffee the more I began to like it. And, guess what? Now I can drink a cup of coffee and smile and enjoy it. It goes great with a lot of foods that I enjoy.

 We can pretty well agree then that as you become more exposed to anything you become more attracted to it, or at least desensitized to it, if it doesn’t have any attractiveness to it at all.

 The same continued exposure to the truth of the news that Jesus Christ will return will attract us more to that fact. If you’ve never thought about it much, and if it’s never preached on, if you never read about it, and if you never watch TV programs that are dedicated to that concept, then of course you have no excitement about the return of Christ. You just never will.

 It’s not enough just to say, “I just don’t think much about Jesus’ return. I just never have felt much excitement. I guess if the Lord really wants me to get excited He’ll just explode it into my heart.” No! Get into the Word. Get a red pen and start marking the Scriptures that deal with the return of Christ. Watch programs like Christ in Prophecy. Get a good Bible or Christian books about the return of Christ and read them. Faith and excitement and attraction will then come to you as well. So, that’s the primary way to get over the apathy, and that being just to start exposing yourself to this incredible doctrine that saturates the Scriptures — the return of Christ.

 Nathan Jones: I believe there are two groups of people. The first group of people are the ones who have been waiting for so long that they’ve lost their excitement and have given up. They are like a friend of mine who a few years back said she was really excited about Bible prophecy when Hal Lindsey came out with Late Great Planet Earth, but then thirty-some or forty years later, the Lord still hasn’t come back. All that excitement, where did it go? After all, Paul was talking about the Rapture 2,000 years ago and it still hasn’t happened. We know that these past years in God’s perspective is a short time, but for us it’s been an eternity, and so we can finally just give up.

 The second group can be found in 2 Peter 3, and they are the one’s who think the idea of the Rapture is just absurd. We can find them where it says, “First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, ‘Where is this coming He promised? Ever since our fathers died everything goes on as since the beginning of creation.’”

 The 2 Peter 3:9 text gives us the response to both of these groups when it says, “The Lord is not slow in keeping His promises as some understand slowness. He is patient with you not wanting anyone to perish but everyone to come into repentance.” Jesus is waiting so you and me and all the people who will become saved can be part of the Bride of Christ, which is the Universal Church. Just think that if the Lord came 100 years ago you and me wouldn’t even exist, so praise the Lord He is patient and waiting!

 What We Do While Waiting

 Dr. Reagan: Speaking of waiting, what should we do as we wait for the return of the Lord at the Rapture?

 Nathan Jones: One of the great things about people who love the Rapture, who understand the Rapture and really get into it, is that they’re excited. They’re just an excited group of people, and the reason is because it gives them purpose. They understand that they need to be holy. They need to be dedicated to the Lord.

 For example, when I come into the house sometimes my kids are watching an extra half hour beyond their time limit. They give you this look that kids give you, that guilty kind of look. Similarly, knowing that God could come at any moment, what’s He going to find us doing? Knowing that the Lord will come back at any time gives us a sense to live holy lives.

 Dennis Pollock: If you’re an unbeliever, obviously there’s only one thing for you to do, and that’s to be born again. Receive Christ as your Savior so that you will be prepared, because when Christ comes He’s coming for people who are exclusively His.

 In God’s eyes there are only two kinds of people in this world: 1) those who belong to Christ, and 2) those who don’t. There is no Partial Rapture which says that if you reach a certain level of holiness then you can be part of the Rapture. Christ is coming for all of His people, and leaving behind all those who are not and subjecting them to His judgment.

 If you are a parent and you have children, those children are your children. They are different from every other child on the face of the earth. Those happen to be yours, and your blood is in them. Christ looks on a certain people all across this world — black, white, oriental, hispanic — that are His people because the Holy Spirit lives in them.

 If you are not one of His you need to run to the cross of Jesus and believe in Him and be born again. That’s your ultimate preparation.

 And, if you are a Christian, what you need to do is to abide in Him. John says, “So that when He appears we won’t be ashamed before Him at His coming.”

 

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Jan 24

The Last Trump

Bill Koenig commentary on the Last Trumpet for the Rapture. Keep looking up!

Countdown to Rosh Hashanah 2012

I’m launching an annual countdown to Rosh Hashanah (the biblical/Jewish New Year). This year will be Countdown to Rosh Hashanah 2012. Next year, it will be Countdown to Rosh Hashanah 2013 and so on.

With so many biblically significant events occurring at a breathtaking pace, I have developed a list of events (below) that we will be following closely until Rosh Hashanah 2012.

This year’s Rosh Hashanah will begin at sundown on Sept. 16 and end at sundown on Sept. 18.

Rosh Hashanah is the festival that marks the head of the year” and is observed for two days each year. 1 Tishrei is the first day of the Jewish New Year.

Chabad wrote: “It is the anniversary of the creation of Adam and Eve, the first man and woman, and their first actions toward the realization of mankind’s role in God’s world.”

The central observance of Rosh Hashanah is the sounding of the shofar, the ram’s horn, which also represents the trumpet blast of a people’s coronation of their king. The cry of the shofar is also a call to repentance.

The Feast of Trumpets Chuck Missler

http://www.khouse.org/articles/1995/105

Observed on the First and Second of Tishri, the celebration actually begins 29 days earlier: a series of over 90 trumpet blasts accrue for a final blowing of blasts on the climax of the celebration, the Teki’ah Gedolah, the Great Blowing.

In the rabbinical literature, there are many details that are quite provocative. Among the most significant is the use of the shofar, the ram’s horn, instead of the usual silver Temple trumpets. (If you visit the Temple Institute in Jerusalem, you can see the silver trumpets that have been fashioned for use in the coming Temple.)

The shofar is associated with the Akedah, Abraham’s offering of Isaac on Mount Moriah, as detailed in Genesis 22. Rabbinical tradition associates the left horn of the ram as the “first trump” and the right horn as the “last trump.”

A distinguishing feature of the celebration is the last, climactic blast, the Teki’at Shofar. This is not the usual series of short bursts, signaling alarm or bad news. Rather, it is a long blast, signaling victory or good news. It is this last blast that is referred to as the last trump.

Paul’s Mystery

In Paul’s Resurrection Chapter, I Corinthians 15, he describes that strange event which has now become known as “The Rapture” of the Church:

Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

What did he mean, “the last trump”?

Some have tried to link this phrase to the Seventh Trumpet Judgment in Revelation, but there is no basis for it. The Seventh Trumpet Judgment is not the final trumpet: for a thousand years (at least) there will be subsequent trumpets in services performed in the Millennial Temple.

So, just what is this “last trump”?Since Paul was of Pharisaical background, it has been suggested that he was alluding to the climactic trumpet of the Feast of Trumpets and that, perhaps, this feast is prophetic of the call of God’s people (which he also refers to in Romans 11:2-5). Possibly. But there are other possibilities as well.

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Dec 10

Are We Missing the Signs?

Read this really great article from Greg Laurie of Harvest Chapel in So Cal. He is absolutely right. Keep looking up!

Christmas is coming, and I think you would be hard-pressed not to know that right now. There are signs all around us that Christmas is here. And when did that start? August? The decorations are up in the malls. Colorful lights are strung on homes. There are the endless ads on TV, along with the specials the networks roll out every year, like “A Charlie Brown Christmas” and “It’s a Wonderful Life.” Then there is the Christmas music playing everywhere you go.

There is a lot of excitement and anticipation as Christmas approaches. When the first Christmas came, however, people pretty much missed it. Of course, there were no telltale signs like twinkling lights on houses. There were no Christmas songs written quite yet. There were no sales at the downtown market. Children did not find it hard to sleep the night before Christmas, because, for all practical purposes, it was a night like any other night.

But the first Christmas was not without its own signals and signs dating back a few centuries. The Hebrew prophets had predicted the Messiah was coming. And they were very specific in pointing out that the Messiah of Israel, the Savior of the world, would be born of a virgin and would be born in the little village of Bethlehem. “But you, Bethlehem …,” the prophet said, “Though you are little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of you shall come forth to Me the One to be Ruler in Israel, whose goings forth are from of old, from everlasting” (Micah 5:2 NKJV).

On the first Christmas when Christ was born, it was pretty much business as usual. Things had been bleak for the Jewish people for some time. There had been an icy silence from heaven. Four hundred years had passed, and there had not been a single prophet to speak for God. There had been no miracles performed. No angelic appearances. And then they were under the tyranny of Rome. They were an occupied territory. The Promised Land had foreign intruders ruling over it. Things were very dark. It was time for the Messiah.

Then the closing line of Luke’s first chapter speaks of the arrival of Jesus: “Because of God’s tender mercy, the morning light from heaven is about to break upon us, to give light to those who sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, and to guide us to the path of peace” (Luke 1:78–79).

Before the sunrise had been the long-lasting dark. But for the faithful, bright flashes were appearing, telling them that the sun was rising.

Angels were busy getting things ready. The angel Gabriel had appeared to Zacharias, the father of John the Baptist, and also to Mary. An angel also appeared to Joseph, relaying the message that Mary’s child was supernaturally conceived in her womb and was the very Son of God.

And of course, we know the rest of the story. Joseph and Mary arrived in Nazareth, but they were turned away by the innkeeper. So God in human form came to us, born in a place where animals were kept.

The Messiah had come, but so many missed it: the innkeeper, the people of Bethlehem, the scholars, King Herod, and all of Rome. A handful of people got it, and they were ready. And while the first Christmas went largely unnoticed, it would be difficult to miss the Christmases of today.

So here is something to consider: Jesus Christ is coming back to this earth again. The Bible is emphatic about this. And just as there were many prophecies pointing to his first arrival that were fulfilled exactly, there are many prophecies that speak of his return again to the earth. And we have never been closer to his return than we are at this very moment.

A question for us to consider today is this: Have we done more to prepare for the celebration of a past event than we have for a future one? In other words, we may be ready for Christmas, but are we ready for the return of Christ?

The stakes are higher for this preparation. But some of us know more about preparing for Christmas than we do about preparing for Christ’s return. So what should we be doing?

We should be watching for him. The Bible says that “[Christ] will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him” (Hebrews 9:28 NIV). Jesus said, “Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near” (Luke 21:28 NKJV).

We should be ready to go. We need to be prepared. We need to be ready to go at a moment’s notice. So to be ready for his return is to be engaged in activities that you would not be ashamed of if Christ were to come back at that very moment. An interesting question to ask yourself periodically is, This place that I am about to go, this thing that I am ready to do, would I be ashamed or embarrassed to be doing such a thing if Jesus were to come back? If the answer is yes, then don’t do it.

We should be anxiously awaiting His return. Have you ever anxiously awaited someone’s arrival? You look through the window and see them coming. Then you open the door before they can even knock. That is how we should be when we think of Christ’s return. We should be looking forward to it with anxious excitement.

We should be working. If watching is the evidence of faith, then working is the evidence of faith in action. Watching for Christ’s return will help us prepare our own lives. But working will assure that we bring others with us when he returns.

Most people missed it when Jesus came the first time. So let’s not miss it when he comes again. Are you ready?

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Sep 29

Do You Feel Like Something Big is Coming?

Nathan Jones, web evangelist at Lion and Lamb ministires, has written a great article about what feels like to all of us believer’s in Christ that something big is about to happen. The return of the King is not far from occurring. Remember to keep looking up!

Do you feel as if something really big is ready to go down?
By Evangelist & Web Minister
If you’re like me you can feel it. You can sense it. The heavy weight of a coming dramatic change is in the air.

Decay – The signs of entropy are all around us. They’re glimpsed in the despondent eye of the unemployed worker who cannot find a job, the harried broker who sees no end to market volatility, the average Joe who feels the wheels of justice have totally fallen off the wagon of freedom, and the graduate who sees no hope for the future because our leaders have failed us. People are feeling our best days now lie behind us.

Something’s got to change.

Economy – The signs of financial ruin are growing. The Western world so steeped in debt vainly pushes back the inevitable knock of the repo man. The nations fall one by one into insolvency, dragging down the economies of what remaining nations are still productive. The East rises ready to claim its investments only to discover the money is artificial, and so tethered stares down bankruptcy as well.

Total and worldwide financial disaster is inevitable.

Nature – The signs of natural destruction are evident. The earth trembles under the fatigue of one natural disaster after another. Record tornadoes rip the countryside apart. Tsunamis and hurricanes devastate coastal regions, reaching ever inland. Daily earthquakes level whole cities. Droughts burn and fires scar the land. Everyday there’s a report of another, and then another, and then another.

The world can’t take much more of this punishment.

War – The signs of another global war are exponentially mounting. The entire world is focused on the fate of the little nation of Israel. The sum of the United Nations wants her destroyed. The arms race of the Middle East fueled by a supernatural hatred of the Jewish people is just one trigger pull away from engulfing the Middle East in a bloodbath. The world’s resources have grown scarce and so the nations eye hungrily the outcome of such a war, ready to turn a regional conflict into a global one.

The hate cannot be held back any longer.

Immorality – And, the signs of immorality accost our most basic decencies. The love for our fellow man has grown cold. Life means nothing to anyone and so we murder even our own children at will. People rail against God and His moral law demanding lawlessness. Christians lose more and more ground in the court systems. Around the world those who stand for righteousness are tortured and killed in record numbers. The restraining force on immorality has all but fled, mostly leaving us to our own self-destructive tendencies.

We are watching the world scream on in its dizzying path towards mutual destruction and know that it cannot go on like this. It just can’t. Something’s got to give. The world cannot continue to get this evil, this volatile, and this hopeless without finally exploding into chaos.

That’s what I see, and if you’ve got your fingers on the pulse of the world as well then that’s most likely what you see as well.

The Final Result

If history repeats itself, and it usually does, then we are all at the brink of something cataclysmic. I’m firmly convinced like no other time during my life that this is the case. Unless the restraining hand of God delays the inevitable, the final days of routine life as we know it are quickly running out.

Inevitable – that’s the key word, for God has told us that this shattering, world altering change will eventually happen. It must, for God’s prophecies always come true.

  • The nations surrounding Israel will finally attack with all their anti-Semitic fury (Ps. 83; Ezek. 38-39).
  • The economies of the world will collapse under their own massive debt load, resulting in famine and the emergency solution of a punishing global financial system (Rev. 6:5-6 & 13:16-17).
  • Natural disasters will increase in frequency and intensity until the mountains are leveled, the oceans are destroyed, and the environment is left in ruins (Lk. 21:11; Rev. 6:12 & 16:3-4,18).
  • Immorality will sink into such darkness that murder and debauchery will be the way of life (Rev. 9:21).
  • And, out of this global chaos, where hope seems to have totally fled, the world will trade all their freedom over to a global dictator who will control everyone with an iron fist, annihilating all who stand in his way in wave after wave of wars and persecution (Rev. 6:2 & 13:17).

This is the world of the near future, and it’s an awful nightmare to contemplate.

The Hopeful Escape

Despite the soon break of the gathering storm, and despite the hopelessness about the future that it brings, believers in Christ can know that it is not our future. Our future plays out in the polar opposite. Instead of living in a world gone mad, we foresee a new home in Heaven. Instead of persecution by a crushing tyrant, we face a loving and benevolent King. Instead of living under wrath, we see living under love. And, where there is only hopelessness left on earth, there is hope, peace and joy awaiting us (Rev. 21-22).

The change on our horizon is bright, for the King of Kings is coming to take those who are saved up to live in Heaven with Him for ever and ever (Jn. 14:1-14; 1 Cor. 15:51-58; 1 Thes. 4:13-18). It will be an event called the Rapture, and it is coming sooner than we think. In fact, it could be argued that it has the potential to happen this very week due to the prophetic significance of the Feasts of Israel.

The Feast of Trumpets occurs on September 29-30, 2011. Will it herald the “last trumpet?” Only God knows for sure. The Rapture is an imminent event, and so we don’t know the exact day or hour it will finally occur. I can only speculate that with the rise of major world events tied to the prophetic significance of the Feast of Trumpets, that this week is one I’m keeping a very close eye on.

Because the Rapture may be more imminent than ever, and since so many of our loved ones will be left behind to wonder what has happened to us pondering what dark future awaits them in the aftermath, we will be running this Feast of Trumpets week a message of hope. This message explains why millions suddenly and mysteriously disappeared and will give them answers to what has happened. It’s our “left behind” message, and my prayer should we be departing really soon, is that it brings people to Jesus Christ.

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Jul 08

The Timing of the Rapture

I am just returning from a two week vacation in the Cape Cod/Boston area. Well needed rest. I just had alot of time to think about how much and frankly how many Christians want to bury their heads in the sand around the topic of the Rapture of the church and the Lord’s return.

I usually receive the “we will not know the day or hour” line or Jesus told us “no man knows the day or hour” line. This line is very true. I am not sure thatthese same people actually understand what the Lord was saying here. When you review the Greek the Lord was telling us that literally we will not know the exact day of the week or the hour that the Lord will return. We will know the times and seasons when this great event is upon us. He tells us that. He also tells us to stay alert, to be ready, and commands us to know the general time frame or period when these things could go down.

Christians are the scoffers from 1 Peter where he tells us there will be scoffers in the last days concerning the Lord’s return . Just food for thought.

I am attaching a wonderful article by Bill Salus on this topic that I went over last night. Great study document to go deeper with. Keep looking up!

Rapture

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Jun 06

When Will Christians Learn?

Here is a wonderful article by Perry Stone centered around why Christians should know better than to try to set dates. Jesus Himself tells us that no man knows the day or the hour not even Himself except the Father.

So why do men continually try to set dates.

On the other hand we have the scoffers or abusers of that verse. Those who fail to recognize that Scripture itself commands us to be alert, aware of the times and seasons around us as the last days approach. These are the ostrich folks who want to put their heads in the proverbial sand as we enter the last of the last days.

So we have abuses on either side. Enjoy this informative article. Keep looking up!

When Will Christians Learn This One Simple Fact?

It happened again, and it will probably happen yet again somewhere down the road. An older minister with a radio program spent time calculating dates and came to the conclusion that the Rapture and the end of the world would occur on May 21, 2011. An untold amount of money was spent on leaflets, posters, and advertisements to warn the nation about the danger of being unprepared for this day of judgment. Followers sold their homes and bought motor homes to travel the nation and proclaim this warning message.

The disciples of this man held their breath one minute before the set time, ready to be catapulted upward and meet the Lord in the air (1 Thess. 4:16-17). One minute after the set time, their feet were still firmly on the ground. Then they said, “There are different timeframes and we need to wait until midnight!” Midnight passed and the fold went to bed, preparing to get up and go about their day the following morning. Followers were discouraged and disillusioned as they wondered why the Rapture didn’t happen. But the minister had the answer. He reset the date for October of 2011, saying that it would occur during the fall feasts.

This reminds me of the fellow who wrote “88 Reasons Why Jesus Will Return in 1988.” When the date passed, the author of the small book wrote another book to inform his readers that he forgot about the zero year from 1 BC to 1 AD. Thus he was off by a year. When the next year passed without incident, the author was no longer writing books and has not been heard of since—or at least not in public.

Here is what I don’t understand. Why can’t people simply be content with this one passage of Scripture and quit following the voices who say they have calculated the date of the return of the Lord? Jesus himself said, “No man knows the day nor the hour of his coming” (Matt. 24:36; Mk 13:32). Does “no man” mean what it says? The answer is yes. No man from any generation, denomination, or educational level will be able to calculate the day or the hour. However, we can know the times and seasons and the signs that indicate the nearness of the return (1 Thess. 5:1).

I enjoy the teaching of prophecy and the fact that the Holy Spirit provides the inspiration to properly discern the times, the seasons, and the signs that are all around us. However, I have never, nor will I ever, attempt to set a date when neither Christ nor the angels know the date! The simple fact we must learn is that no one has known, nor ever will know, the exact time of the return of the Messiah to gather His people (Eph 1:9-10).

You might be able to save a few dollars here and there by never purchasing a book, CD, or DVD that claims to have special insight into the year, the day, and hour of the return of the Lord. Even if you knew the day, it would be a different day in another part of the world, as other parts of the world are on a different timeframe than the west. If you knew the hour, there is a time difference from the east to west as well. It might be midnight here, but will be eight in the morning somewhere else. So let the Lord return when the Father is ready for Him to return. Until then, let’s keep preaching, teaching, and seeing the Kingdom of God advance in the earth as we bring a message of hope and deliverance to the masses of humanity who are lost.

Sincerely,

Perry Stone

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Mar 31

The Coming of Jesus

Here is the post seen on David Wilkerson’s blog entry page yesterday….

 

THE COMING OF JESUSby David Wilkerson | March 29, 2011

I believe Jesus is coming very soon. We see the Lord gathering the nations together against Israel. Events are moving rapidly toward Armageddon.

“When you see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors” (Matthew 24:33).

“Of the day and hour knoweth no man, no, not even the angels of heaven, but my Father only” (v. 36).

All signs point to a Mideast war against Israel. Out of the turmoil in Arab nations will come a united call to destroy Israel. We are beholding the fulfillment of prophecies we have preached about for many hears.

Those who know the Scriptures have a Holy Ghost inner sense of the Lord’s return. We hear the call of the Holy Spirit dwelling in us, crying, “Even so, Lord Jesus, come.” Jesus said,
“Watch therefore: for you know no what hour your Lord will come” (v. 42).

“Be ready, for in such an hour as you think not the Son of man cometh” (v. 44).

“Blessed is that servant, whom his Lord, when he comes, shall find so doing” (v. 46).

Beloved, do you feel—do you sense—that these are the last of the last days? Do you share the longing for his appearance?

Look up; our redemption is drawing near!

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Mar 20

Return of Christ is Near – Greg Laurie

Noted pastor Greg Laurie says while we do not know the exact day or hour of the return of our Lord we are told to know the signs of the times that would preceed His return,. Laurie believes the return is very near. Keep looking up!

Calif. Pastor: End of the World Is Near, Really

By Audrey Barrick|Christian Post Reporter

Every generation has cried “the end of the world is near.” Yet “here we are still,” noted one Southern California pastor.

Signs of the Times

“Haven’t we heard this all before?” Greg Laurie acknowledged on Sunday. “Every generation … that has thought it was the generation that would see the Lord’s return has been wrong because he didn’t come, did he?”

“This idea of the end of the world coming, Christ returning, is this the truth?”

Laurie, pastor of Harvest Christian Fellowship in Riverside, Calif., continued his messages on the end times in light of recent events, including the deadly earthquake in Japan.

This generation might be repeating what past generations have been saying, that these are the last days, but Laurie wonders whether the “cumulative effect” and the frequency of the events are cause to believe that indeed Jesus might return in his lifetime.

“Yes, we have heard this message before but over the years, certain things have happened that have immense prophetic significance,” he said.

“I want more Christian news!”

He listed the dramatic escalation of global wars and terrorism, the push for unity or globalism, the change in world economics toward a cashless society, the unprecedented increase of killer earthquakes, and false teaching permeating the church.

The world isn’t quite yet at the seven-year Tribulation Period that the Bible prophesizes, Laurie said, but he believes it’s close.

“That means the return of Jesus Christ is even closer yet,” he said.

There may be some disagreements over the order of the prophetic events, he noted. But there is no division on “this one truth: that Jesus Christ is coming back again soon.”

Of course, no one can say with certainty when that day will be.

“I’m not one of those date setters,” the famed evangelist said. “Some looney tune will come along and say he’s cracked the code. No man knows the day or the hour.”

But what people can know are the “signs of the times,” a phrase Jesus coined, according to Laurie.

What are these signs? “We see them on the headlines of newspapers,” he said.

Earthquakes are just one of many signs. More than 10,000 people are estimated to have died from Friday’s magnitude-8.9 quake and tsunami in Japan. One thousand bodies were found washed up across the coastline of Miyagi prefecture on Monday, according to The Associated Press.

Japan’s quake was preceded by a smaller but still deadly quake in southwestern China a day earlier. It’s been only weeks since a powerful quake also shook Christchurch, New Zealand, and just one year has passed since the catastrophic Haiti earthquake that killed an estimated 316,000 people.

While disasters are one obvious sign, Laurie believes one of the most significant signs indicating the Lord’s return in this generation is the 1948 return of the Jewish people to their homeland.

With “plenty of signs of the times,” Laurie asked the Harvest congregation, “Are you ready to meet God?”

“If we really understand anything about Bible prophecy … it’ll make us want to be a more godly person,” he said.

“We don’t know when the end of the world is, but listen, the end of your world could come sooner,” he warned. “God gives us time. Spend it wisely. The Lord could come back today.”

Laurie leads some 15,000 people every week at Harvest Christian Fellowship. Also an evangelist, he has preached the gospel to more than 4 million people since 1990.

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Mar 05

Date Setting is a Problem

So as hard as I am on not teaching enough about Bible Prophecy happening more in churches to prepare our people for the return of the King, there is also the danger of date setting becoming a major area of concern for the church. We will only know the times or seasons not the exact day or hour. Here is a great article on this topic happening right now from David Reagan of Lamb and Lion Ministries.

Harold Camping: Date-Setting Madness

By Dr. David R. Reagan

Lamb & Lion Ministries

Harold Camping (age 88) is at it again! Back in 1992 he published a book titled 1994? in which he set the date for the Lord’s return for September 6, 1994. [1] Now, in his latest book, Time Has An End, he has set a new “absolute” date of May 21, 2011. [2]

Unfortunately, Camping has a lot of influence within Christendom because he owns the Family Radio Network which broadcasts his messages over 150 radio stations within the United States. His message is also being broadcast via satellites to most of the nations of the world.

Unfortunately, also, his message has been featured widely in the secular press, as is always the case with date-setters. That’s because the press loves to play them up to the hilt in preparation for making fun of them when their date proves false. The result, of course, is that Bible prophecy is subjected to ridicule.

Despite the fact that he was proved to be a false prophet in 1994, Camping has convinced many people of the validity of his new date. His followers have erected billboards all over the nation. Some have emblazoned their cars with the message. Others are handing out T-shirts and bumper stickers. A website has been created at http://www.wecanknow.com/ . And mission groups are carrying the message to the four corners of the earth.

An Historical Precedent

It is all reminiscent of a Vermont farmer by the name of William Miller who developed a theory in the 1820′s, based on Daniel 8:14, that Jesus would return to the earth on March 21, 1844. [3]

In the King James Version that passage reads:

“And he [a saint or holy one] said unto me, ‘Unto 2,300 days, then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.’”

This is a prophecy about the desecration of the Temple by Antiochus Epiphanes and its ultimate cleansing. But Miller applied it to the end times and converted the days into years. Assuming the prophecy was given in 457 BC, he calculated that Jesus would return 2,300 years later, on March 21, 1844. Incredibly, he interpreted the “cleansing of the sanctuary” to refer to the purging of the earth by fire at the Second Coming of Jesus!

When Miller’s date came and passed without any sign of the Lord’s return, he proceeded to set a new date for October 22, 1844. When nothing happened on this second date, most of Miller’s followers became totally disillusioned. The whole experience was dubbed “The Great Disappointment.” Miller died in disgrace four years later in 1849.

But that did not prove to be the end of the matter. One small group of Miller’s followers in New England decided that he had not been wrong after all. Led by a young so-called prophetess named Ellen G. White, they began to teach that on October 22, 1844, Jesus had entered the Holy of Holies in Heaven to begin an “investigative judgment” of the works of every person who has ever lived in order to determine their fitness for Heaven. [4] They further taught that the reason Jesus did not return to the earth on the October date was because of the Church’s failure to observe the Jewish Sabbath. And thus was founded the modern day cult known as The Seventh Day Adventists. [5]

Harold Camping’s date-setting parallels that of the Millerite Movement in several ways. First, like Miller, his cornerstone scripture is Daniel 8:14, but he applies the 2,300 days differently. In his first book, 1994?, Camping argued that the Tribulation began on May 21, 1988 and that Jesus would return 2,300 days later, after He had cleansed the Church, resulting in a date of September 6, 1994.

And just as was the case with the Millerite Movement, when Jesus did not arrive, Camping declared that the day he had selected was spiritually very significant. The only problem was that he had misinterpreted its meaning. Instead of it being the day of the Lord’s return, it was the day that the end-time pouring out of God’s Spirit began, ushering in a period when there would be a great harvest of souls, after which the Lord would return.

Having justified his first error in date-setting, Camping then proceeded to set his second date for May 21, 2011.

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